No, no no. It's not because this respect is inspired by desire or by sexual attraction that it's not respect.
As a man I can tell you that it's realy, naive, stupid respect. Mixed with other feelings of course.


From a statistacal point of view yes. In the community subcounciouseness, no.

I mean, "being not only very intelligent but beautiful at the same time" is not impressive because we expect blonds to be dead dumb like in the old jokes, but because of two qualities on the same person.


There is no point indeed because trying to look realy hot when you are aging will only fail and makes you look stupid. The best they can do is to lose some weight, that way they car save 5~6 years.
But the main reason is that men don't wait for women with hot looks, they try any woman who has a normal body and not too old for bed, no matter the clothes she wears.
Women often surrestimate the role of clothes and fashion on men: Men can't care less. What we car is maybe less clothes like a mini skirt instead of a long skirt.
And hairdress. But that's not clothes.

I think some men with high positions make the mistake of working with too young, too pretty women and that creates problems. IMO at the director office floor women should be 45 years old MINIMUM!

**I tried to refrain from replying to this thread, i thought it to be too lengthy of a read.**  Don't give up VIV!!

Must we highlight the oppressions of females once again?

The mere thought of male shivery is a social distortion, brought and pressed upon youth, to maintain a certain social order and ideology. Those ideals are used to confine girls, and never make women.  It is stressed upon them that in order to be fulfilled they must be mothers and wives. You see it best today in suburban America ... (fucking soccer moms breeding their field hockey daughters).  The most influential feminist authors (like EVER!) Simone de Beauvoir put it best, "women are not born, but rather, she becomes a woman."  This illustrates the need and the responsibilities that women have to themselves and each other, to be subversive and destroy gender roles!  **war cry!! **

Women were never thought as equal, just the other sex, secondary.  This is indicated due to the lack in women's culture and history.  Women were not given the same opportunities as their male counter parts, probably because they died during childbirth or too busy taking care of ungrateful children, while their husbands probably got drunk and screwed other women who had poor judgement. Thus resulting in the bastard-children/women-never-advancing cycle.  (Damn anchor children, thanks to the pill, I'D SAY REVOLT!!  Have money of your own you whores! LEVERAGE whatever you can to gain power.. muahaha) Though I understand there are ambiguities on terms, but until everyone acknowledges the universal standard, we can't begin to understand or accept.

Women have to get over this "need" for a male; though i must admit the companionship is nice.  My boyfriend never opens the door for me, not because he's a tool.  Simply, because I can open my own goddamn doors! 

Sigh....I will address your previous post when I feel...more...

Well...

Men never enjoy such double quality...only female beauty is valued...?

I disagree (as usual) . 

There is a huge difference IMO between physically beautiful and attractive.  As there is a difference between a person who is attractive and one who is sexy.

Many times there are people who are beautiful and that is attractive, but the one who grabs male attention is the one with the wit and the intellect to do so.

It is a combination of qualities.  It is not enough to be beautiful, that may attract initially, but within seconds the vacuum in the brain is detected and if there is an intelligent alternative a man will take it.

Even men prefer something more...

LIKE totally... and don't forget to s.p.i.c.e. up your life!  lol.. i jk

I also reread post #16 and I don't see what's so offensive... But I'm looking forward to know it.


When a guy talks to an attractive woman who doesn't like this guy (not her type, not the right time etc), she will show that she is not in the mood for dating or even for a conversation, through posture, facial expression and replies which will realy look dumb, dull and boring.
The guy will walk away with the feeling that as far as the brain is concerned, he didn't lose anything.

When a woman is attracted by a man and this man start talking to her, then (even if it's the same woman as in the first example) she will fires up packs of neurones which usualy remain iddle.
She will smile (very important), reply clearly and with multi-word sentences, look in the eyes, ask questions, etc. She will find the way to be clever. Even the most cliché pin-up will do that.
This also when the woman has no intention of dating (after all that happens quite rarely) but just find the guy nice.
And the guy will walk away with the pleasure of having had a nice encounter (even if they didn't date, more if they do obviousely) and will think that this girl is not stupid.

What I want to say is that the way a woman's intellect (stupid or intelligent) look to a man depends mostly on how she appreciates this man.

Of course men appreciate wit and intellect but it doesn't work if there is not a minimum of sexual compatibility at the lowest level.
A man can't have a love affair without physical attraction. That's not the case, or not always the case with women: Women can have relations with men totaly out of range physicaly.
So for women the difference between beautiful and attractive is greater than for men. For women it's two separate things while for men it's closely interconnected. A man will find his girlfriend beautiful, inevitably. While a woman may love a man knowing conciousely that he is not handsome.

This is even more marked with the concept of sexyness. Being sexy demultiplies the attraction caused by the beauty of the woman. But as beauty is not as much if at all, relevant in women's decision, sexyness has no value, no effect or even a negative effect as it denotes rather a stereotype of lack of intellect.
That's why one won't say a man is sexy, or only ironicaly. A man who will strive to be sexy won't achieve anything but looking gay. A woman who will be sexy will have far more effect on the other sex. She will also make jealous other women who don't like to be sexy themselves.

Now do men choose "more sexy but less intellectual" or "more intellectual and less sexy". The question is irrelevant: He will choose the woman who will love him (often there is only one at a time) and this woman will look to him more intelligent even if she is more sexy.

Is this all it takes?  Damn, I AM sexy after all!  Wow!

LOL...they don't do it while you're in the room...I guess that is why Fred is unaware of it...

And I, personally, do not engage in such activities.

Although I did think they made the right choice of best lookin' guy...