Yeah yeah yeah Pistachios.

I say something you don't agree with you're all over me. I say something you DO agree with and you're all over me. It's flattering. Really.


Thought that's what I was doing moron.

Did you come out of retirement just to attach yourself to my leg like a leech? A barnacle maybe? Good to know I've managed to crush your psyche, your very sense of Id.


Maybe. Did I ever argue against something like that?




lol. nob.
Ahk

And yet you haven't posted in months, and when you do it's two knee-jerk posts jumping on me before you even know what I've said. So deny all you like but obviously I am at the top of your priority list.


No actually i have never done that. I said it's no excuse. I said that does not make it rational or imply rationality to their acts. I feel confident you did not use words like "provoked" or "irritant", but probably instead used words like "excuses" or "explains" or "justifies". Besides Al Qaeda does not equal Iran, no matter how much you need to simplify in order to make it seem so.



Uhhh no. This is 100% incorrect. Rare are the times I've spoken about Sunni/Shia at all, let alone cast any judgment on them or come out in favor of one over the other. Further I've never discussed a link between Shias and Afghanistan. Not once. You're thinking of someone else. I'm all about "Pakistan and Afghanistan", remember? And I don't need to ascribe different motives to Iran and Al Qaeda, all I need to do is compare their acts to decide that Iran deserves breathing room and al Qaeda deserves to be erased. Iran wants a nuclear defensive deterrent, and al Qaeda doesn't really know what it wants (in my opinion) but will kill anyone to get it. Big difference there....furhter Al Qaeda, unlike Iran, has no "moderate elements" to it.

GO ahead Pistachios, I dare you: search the forum (this one or 1.0) for posts written by me that include the word Sunni. There's 4 of them. Go look at what I said. Go look at the context.

Satisfied? Didn't think so.

Put down the joint when you speak to me, or at least think for a second or two before you do. But wahtever, you're not into discussion, you're into following me around and whenever....
s'your game. I mean why would it be so hard to see what I said about Iran and simply say: "I agree for once Ahk"? I've done it with you. No, you'd hate yourself wouldn't you? Instead you come in and try to divert the course of the thread off topic based on some faded argument you and I had that you probably aren't remembering correctly. Yep. Same old Pistachios: argue at all costs.

Ahk

Actions speak louder than words, especially excessive explainations. Im sure there's a lot on this thread and the Tibet one where people said something you disagreed with yet you felt a need to "argue' with me over something you DO agree with (iran). Regardless of your ability to see it, that DOES make me a priority.


Oh well then one could hardly be surprised at my confusion when you said:
Since we've just established I've never spoken on a link betwenn Sunni and Afghanistan. I dont recognize alQaeda or Taliban as Muslim.


Uuhhh no. Terrorists can claim anything provokes them to justified murder. Their home nation invites the US to have an embassy or to bring troops to their land (Lebanon. Saudi Arabia) and al Qaeda thinks this excuses killing any American they see. Why don;'t they bomb their own leadership? How come if Osama is soo pissed with the House of Saud he doesnt take the fight to them?  On the other hand you have Iran, an independant nation who has not attacked anyone but has reason to feel threatened. They want an a-bomb. So what? Every nation out there who has gained a nuclear arsinal uses it for deterrent. There is no connection. Iran can be reasoned with, while al Qaeda will always find a reason to exist -- meaning a reason to kill Americans -- regardless of whether or not they pull their troops from Saudi (.which they did).

I am confident in the difference and considering how you debate I'm not willing to get into it with you....suffice to say you need to make some pretty heavy generalizations as well as not consider some huge factors befiore you can draw even a loose comparrison between Iran as an entity and al Qaeda as an entity.
It was the same thing with the civilian bombing tactics of WWII and the argument we had about that. You really had to pull out all the stops to hold the US and the atomic bomb as so vastly different than the previous.10 year evolution world wide of this new and grutesqe tactic. At the end of the day the only difference was that they were American.


blah blah blah. As I said al Qaeda has no moderate elements. If they did I'd have more faith in diplomacy with them. Further they DO NOT draw from the mainstream. Most non-leadership al Qaeda and Taliban are some of the most undereducated and poor in the world. Most would not join if they had some notion of the world outside their madrass.


Excuse me but according to the rest of the planet "ignoring Iran" or the idea that conservative elements here provoke conserative elements there is neither obvious nor a popular stance. The point to agreeing once in a while is so we know you're not stupid.


One is an ancient nation with millions of people and a thousand possabilities for it's future whereas a gang of phsycos will only ever lead to one thing. Further you could kill every al qaeda member and I would not stir from a restful sleep, whereas another "shock and awe" in Iran will likely kill everyone NOT related to their minor stupidity. As bloodthursty as you're counting on me being, I wouldn't like that at all and advise avoiding it at all costs. Lastly, Iran hasn't attacked anyone unprovoked. Even when their youth took the American embassy hostage they didnt kill any of them. There's a clear difference right there.

The same could be said about the US. There are tons of moderates in the US as well, so again, the future possabilites are boundless. I would've thought this was easily as obvious as how a docturne of bombing civilians started (or was propelled as a worthwhile tactic) at Geurnica, making the Japanese bombings a predictable crescendo regardless of whether 100,000's were killed by many firebombs or one a-bomb. It was the same tactic, evolved. This is obvious as well but you didn't get that. In fact a lot of things I consider obvious are not so obvious to you, so there is a point to agreeing with the "obvious".


Make it permanent. I feel no pressing desire to convince (or convert) you of anything or to even debate you considering the tactics you use....(such as ambiguously implying I said something about Afghanistan and Sunni or ever argued it and then turning around and telling me there's basically no way I could know what you mean by that because it's a personal opinion you forgot to mention or properly relate...or instead of agreeing with something I say you decide this is your cue to take the thread off-topic and resurrect an argument from long ago).

If you want me to participate you have to get past 'argue anything' or I'll just fluctuate between bitching at you and ignoring you. While in 'argue anything' mode there are others who will entertain you. I've stopped trusting you or taking you seriously, but I don;'t want you to get pissed either and take off, so ....leave me alone, or at least dont be surprised if I don't bother engaging beyond "blah blah blah yeah whatever Pistachios".



Ahk

Peisithantos: try removing the links, then post, then add the links back in with an edit.

Also if you ahve any brand names try and remove them.

It's a known bug and there's pretty much nothing we can do about it.

I am not American (though my wife is), but I was in the British Army, have lived in the Middle-east for three years, and we used to fight terrorism when it was still funded by stupid (Irish)-Americans.

I know what I'm talking about; and in war there is a time to kill the bad guys (and if you can't see Iran as the baddies, then you, personally, are stupid).

Don't write pointless or rude replies to a serious post.

Where in the middle east have you been? I take it not Iran right? If not, how does what you have claimed here manifest your knowledge of that country?