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Why do you think Muslim terrorist attack the USA and other countries? I am referring to Muslim terrorists, in such acts as 9/11, the London train bombing, and such.
I say it's because of belligerent US foreign policy. For example, the USA supported dictators all over the region--from Indonesia to Iraq to Iran--that lead to the deaths of millions. And then, the US gives 1.3 trillion to Israel in "aid," and Israel, as you know, is hated by Arabs. Not to mention the sanction on Iraq, which killed 1 million Iraqi civilians. And Britain supported much of this.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 08:51:37 PM » |
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It might be nice if you at least make an attempt to back up your statement.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 09:02:21 PM » |
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Why do you think Muslim terrorist attack the USA and other countries? I am referring to Muslim terrorists, in such acts as 9/11, the London train bombing, and such.
I say it's because of belligerent US foreign policy. For example, the USA supported dictators all over the region--from Indonesia to Iraq to Iran--that lead to the deaths of millions. And then, the US gives 1.3 trillion to Israel in "aid," and Israel, as you know, is hated by Arabs. Not to mention the sanction on Iraq, which killed 1 million Iraqi civilians. And Britain supported much of this.
Acorn nut, the terrorists just love killing innocent people and are DOOMED for extinction, with Pig entrails and fat around their rotting corpses... facing north.  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 10:05:22 PM » |
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Terry Mathis,
You have no understanding of this current problem of terrorism. Might I suggest you pick up a history book?
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 10:28:37 PM » |
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Terry Mathis,
You have no understanding of this current problem of terrorism. Might I suggest you pick up a history book?
Child, I am many years ahead of you on the topic. May I suggest you get your High School diploma, then your College degree and then you will have the tools to interact on a coherent basis with someone that HAS studied terrorism and terrorists for quite a bit more time than you. Good luck, you may need it! |
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 03:58:14 AM » |
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Acorn do you really think the USA is to blame for modern day Islamic terrorism ? No other factors ? Just the USA and their evil imperialist attitudes ..... |
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 04:11:07 AM » |
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The US is not the only cause by a long shot. Of course it is a part of the problem but the problem can't, in all honesty, be framed in a way where it is nice and neat and only caused by US interventions and attitudes in the region. The main roots of the problem go back at least a few centuries and the whole eppisode is the result of east-west interactions during that time frame. The reason US is so visible a part of the problem is that it is easier (and more effective) to deamonize a certain entity and channel all the frustrations at it. Yes US has caused alot of grief in the ME and Islamic world in general, but this does not mean that UK, France, USSR (and now Russia), or the Muslims themselves had no part in it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 10:13:38 AM » |
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The US is not the only cause by a long shot. Of course it is a part of the problem but the problem can't, in all honesty, be framed in a way where it is nice and neat and only caused by US interventions and attitudes in the region. The main roots of the problem go back at least a few centuries and the whole eppisode is the result of east-west interactions during that time frame. The reason US is so visible a part of the problem is that it is easier (and more effective) to deamonize a certain entity and channel all the frustrations at it. Yes US has caused alot of grief in the ME and Islamic world in general, but this does not mean that UK, France, USSR (and now Russia), or the Muslims themselves had no part in it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 11:57:39 AM » |
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Acorn do you really think the USA is to blame for modern day Islamic terrorism ? No other factors ? Just the USA and their evil imperialist attitudes .....--JFree89 Of course not. That's why I was asking the question in the first place. The Muslim relationship with the West can be traced back to the crusades--and even further to the first Jihads against the West. But I doubt that examining the issue from the crusades on up would give any great insights. We should look in the more immediate past. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 12:12:25 PM » |
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And then, the US gives 1.3 trillion to Israel in "aid," and Israel, as you know, is hated by Arabs.
Maybe that is why Israel receives 1.3 trillion dollars in aid. For a country that has negligible population, negligible resources, and negligible land area to be hated by such a large group, it makes said country's survival pretty dependent on receiving help from others. Otherwise, that hate would lead to a massacre....... Israel isn't hated because she receives aid, she receives aid because she is hated. Once that hate decreases to an acceptable level, there is no reason to continue military aid. If the "destruction" of Israel wasn't on so many people's to-do lists, perhaps Israel wouldn't receive so much aid. Just a thought. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 12:50:23 PM » |
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As long as the Persians and most of the Arabs want to drive Israel into the sea, they will be hugely granted aid from the U.S. I note that Egypt, Jordan, and a couple others Do recognise Israel.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 01:36:04 PM » |
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As long as the Persians and most of the Arabs want to drive Israel into the sea, they will be hugely granted aid from the U.S. I note that Egypt, Jordan, and a couple others Do recognise Israel.--Terry Mathis Hamas has offered an unlimited peace agreement with Israel several times. But guess what--Israel has refused all offers. Also, Palestine, and most Palatines, have recognized Israel as a legitimate state. And Persians (Iran) do not want to "Wipe Israel off the Map." (That was a mistranslation of what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad' said. ) You must also remember that Israel action in Gaza is essentially an act of terrorism. In fact, it was so bad that it was condemned by the United Nations Human Rights Council as a “war crime.” If Israel continues such actions, then, surly, Arab nations will be against Israel. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4147 In this interview with Foreign Policy Magazine, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said: ""Hamas is prepared to offer a hudna [broad cease-fire] to Israel if it [Israel] withdraws from the lands occupied in 1967 and respects all the Palestinian rights." http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10608398http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=25891&Cr=gaza&Cr1= |
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 05:12:37 PM » |
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Hamas has offered an unlimited peace agreement with Israel several times. But guess what--Israel has refused all offers.
Could you take a moment and post some links to backup on that statement....??
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 07:16:15 PM » |
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As long as the Persians and most of the Arabs want to drive Israel into the sea, they will be hugely granted aid from the U.S. I note that Egypt, Jordan, and a couple others Do recognise Israel.--Terry Mathis Hamas has offered an unlimited peace agreement with Israel several times. But guess what--Israel has refused all offers. Also, Palestine, and most Palatines, have recognized Israel as a legitimate state. And Persians (Iran) do not want to "Wipe Israel off the Map." (That was a mistranslation of what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad' said. ) You must also remember that Israel action in Gaza is essentially an act of terrorism. In fact, it was so bad that it was condemned by the United Nations Human Rights Council as a “war crime.” If Israel continues such actions, then, surly, Arab nations will be against Israel. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4147 In this interview with Foreign Policy Magazine, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said: ""Hamas is prepared to offer a hudna [broad cease-fire] to Israel if it [Israel] withdraws from the lands occupied in 1967 and respects all the Palestinian rights." http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10608398http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=25891&Cr=gaza&Cr1=Acorn, your whole post is schmuck smack. All wrong. And the 'mouthpiece' of Iran you call the President is a nothing. The head Mullah himself has said what I said they believe. What I posted still stands!  |
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 07:38:00 PM » |
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Acorn, your whole post is schmuck smack. All wrong.--Terry Mathis Expert Terry, so are you saying that the United Nations Human Rights Council; The Economist; and the interview with Foreign Policy are all wrong? Wow, you are rejecting all these sources? I was all wrong? What evidence do you have, chap? |
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