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realityman
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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2008, 09:50:52 AM »

...They think they are training their kids to fight and win. They are training them to die...

Ahk

Very true... And unfortunately a lesson the Palestinian people seem slow to learn. (electing Hamas into power should be a slight clue to this as well...lol).

The world seems quick to forget... The PLO and Hamas weren't formed to unite a new "people" (The "Palestinians")... or to organize, govern and build a nation, ...they were both formed to destroy a nation (as clearly evident by both groups founding charters... )... That the people they've come to represent have yet to (either can't or have no desire to) put forth a representation able and willing to take the necessary steps to stop the violence and build a peaceful nation tells us volumes versus what they lure the gullable media into believing.

Talk is fine... and talk is a first step... but when you've heard the 'talk" over and over again, yet the actions consistently fail to follow, you have every right to be skeptical when told or lead to believe... again.. that "this time will be different" (again)... In the largest recent example...Palestinian were going to demonstrate their ability to thrive and live peacefully in Gaza... "this time" was to be "different"...

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"This is a test. We need to convince the world we deserve a state that would be a stabilizing factor in the region. If we fail, history will not forgive the Palestinians,"

Jibril al-Rajoub, Security Adviser to President Mahmoud Abbas

http://www.redorbit.com/news/international/203291/gaza_withdrawal_a_test_for_palestinian_statehood/

...AND IT SURE WAS DIFFERENT... ISRAEL and the world has heard the talk before (Arafat, and now Abbas)...yet with all the "talk", we still have the Pals propagating the values of martyrdom and teaching their children that violence is ok...even a WORTHY ENDENVOUR... Streets, townsquares, soccer matches, and summer camps named after terrorists??  It's time for the Palestinians to put forth leadership willing to ACT (and/or get assistance in taking action) toward stopping the violence, putting law and order into place, and achieving a meaninful and lasting peace.  Until they're willing/able to do it for themselves, it'll have to be done by others.
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2008, 08:51:45 PM »

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Of course you conveniently forget that most of those killed were militants, the rest were allowing the militants to operate in civilian areas. Sadly, hiding behind women and children doesn't matter to the terrorists.  Roll Eyes--Terry Mathis

And what did the militants do to get such a retaliation from Israel? Kill two Israeli soldiers 


You miss the forest for the trees. The point is that all this would stop if Hamas quit attacking Israel, as Israel has every right to proactively protect itself. Are you a anti-Hebrew? Sure post like one.  Roll Eyes

No, you are so far from the truth.  It will stop when the zionist entity ends the occupation and imprisonment of the Palestinian people.

Intifada is resistance, ooccupation is terrorism.
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2008, 04:42:48 AM »


Intifada is resistance, ooccupation is terrorism.
Kwality stuff there.
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Who will watch the watchers?

Now that it is over, what are we going to talk about?
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2008, 10:31:19 AM »

As the real facts don't seem to fit their agenda, Hamas seems to have no problem "inventing new facts"  Grin Grin.

Some of the latest nonsense:
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Hamas: Jews planned the Holocaust
By HAVIV RETTIG
Apr 30, 2008

Jewish leaders concocted the mass murder of handicapped Jews in order to keep from having to support them, and this murder is what the Jews term "the Holocaust," according to a documentary special that aired on April 18 on Hamas's Al Aqsa television station.

According to the documentary's narrator, Israel's first prime minister David Ben Gurion decided that Jewish "disabled and handicapped are a burden to the state," after which "the Satanic Jews" - the film cuts to a picture of a hassidic Jew - "thought up an evil plot to be rid of the burden of disabled and handicapped" - the film then cuts to piles of emaciated corpses - "in twisted criminal ways."

"This is official Hamas TV," explained PMW director Itamar Marcus. "It's owned and totally controlled by the Hamas leadership in Gaza, and it goes out by satellite to the whole Arab-speaking world."

The program dealt primarily with the Holocaust, but included comparisons to the Palestinian situation, calling the massacres in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps a "holocaust" and blaming Israel for a "Palestinian holocaust."

"They [the Jews] were the first to invent the methods of evil and oppression," explains the documentary's narrator, cutting to scenes of Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan and Ben Gurion.

The film claimed Jewish leaders blamed the Nazis for their own massacre of Jews "so the Jews would seem persecuted and try to benefit from international sympathy."
 
The film offers an "expert" - Amin Dabur, head of the "Center for Strategic Research" - who explains that "the Israeli Holocaust, the whole thing was a joke and part of the perfect show that Ben Gurion put on."

There is some tension in the film between blaming the Jews for the massacre of Jews, and denying the massacre took place. According to Dabur, Ben Gurion was interested in sending "strong and energetic youth [for Israel], while all the rest - the disabled, the handicapped, and people with special needs, they were sent [to die] - if it can be proven historically" - a reference to a claim heard often on Hamas television, from Iranian leaders and elsewhere in the Muslim world that the Holocaust has yet to be proven historically.

Continues Dabur: "They were sent [by the Jews to die] so there would be a Holocaust, so Israel could 'play' it for world sympathy."

at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870534661&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


That this sort of nonsense is written or broadcast I doubt surprises anyone.  There are "radicals" from every agenda who make up crazy stories/scenarios almost daily..

What more "story telling" (but still not really surprising) is this "broadcast's" source.  As the article says, this was broadcast on"official Hamas TV".  Hamas is the elected leadership of the Palestinian people... and this is apparently part of the distorted "history" they'd like their people to believe... so that their agenda against Israel and the Jews can live on...

If "official" US/Canadian/French, etc sources were broadcasting ridiculous and clearly "made up" propaganda such as the above, the world would be in an uproar... demanding a retraction and/or proof.  BUT when elected Palestinian leadership (Hamas) makes up a radical, anti-Jew, anti-Israel "tall tale" and broadcasts it over their own official TV station and by satellite to the Arab world, it barely makes the news... Apparently Hamas and the people they represent are held to a lower standard (which of course comes as little surprise to anyone).  hmmm

It makes one wonder what it is the average Palestinian actually believes to be history.... VERSUS what is fact.

Your neighbors?? hmmm
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