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Author Topic: Moraly, What's worse: Pornography or Prostitution?  (Read 4444 times)
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« on: March 08, 2008, 06:20:02 PM »

What's worse, moraly, but also from a social perspective: Pornography (the commerce of movies, pictures etc) or Prostitution (the commerce of a sexual act)?

Please post your opinion here.
For me the answer is not obvious.
I will write more about it, but first I would like to see a few comments.
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 08:34:30 PM »

I have no moral qualms with either.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 10:51:08 PM »

Prositution, because it isn't free and available to everyone.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 03:58:54 AM »

Yea, a tough one.   Both devalue human sexuality.   Both however serve a purpose for the sexual inadequte or 'disadvantaged'.   I think on balance I would feel more anti-pornography, since it is more pervasive and creates a rather sad and seedy view of sexuality, that engenders a commoditisation of people.  I don't think that prostitution has the same effect - sure some inadequates may see sex-workers as objects, but I guess that many clients don't.  There is some sort of human relationship there that seems missing in porn....

But I'm unsure of just how much I condemn them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 05:41:02 AM »

One is bad as the other they are both wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 06:53:59 AM »

One is bad as the other they are both wrong.

Do you nhave any reasoning for your opinion? 
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 07:04:53 AM »

One is bad as the other they are both wrong.

Do you nhave any reasoning for your opinion? 

My own personal religious beliefs bring me to that conclusion.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 07:11:14 AM »

The fact you cannot walk into your dignified and professional place of work.....a place seen with respect, duty, honor and service.....and proclaim a desire or support for either one speaks volumes in itself.

shame      /ʃeɪm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sheym] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, shamed, sham·ing.
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1.   the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, ridiculous, etc., done by oneself or another: She was overcome with shame.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 07:33:27 AM »

The fact you cannot walk into your dignified and professional place of work.....a place seen with respect, duty, honor and service.....and proclaim a desire or support for either one speaks volumes in itself.

shame      /ʃeɪm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sheym] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, shamed, sham·ing.
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1.   the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, ridiculous, etc., done by oneself or another: She was overcome with shame.



Sorry, Patton, I don't see what you are trying to say. Is it that open discussion of either is a social taboo, therefore both are equally immoral?   I am not sure that is a very sound line of argument.  People couldn't display tattoos, declare themselves homosexual, admit to atheism, etc until recently (even now atheism is 'shameful'  LOL).

In a spirit of open-ness let me say that I have never used the services of a prostitute, but I have had loveless sex, just for the sake/need of it.  I have bought and 'used' pornography in a situation where I did not want to compromise a relationship by 'unfaithfulness' (even though there would not have been any emotion involved).  I don't feel any shame discussing it here - although a desire for privacy would stop me being as open in say the family - where people's sensibilities would need respecting.  The same may be said of my place of work.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 07:39:31 AM »

One is bad as the other they are both wrong.

Do you nhave any reasoning for your opinion? 

My own personal religious beliefs bring me to that conclusion.

Mr Murphy, this is a discussion board.  Your track record here does no give you the credibility of an authority - indeed you may have noticed that no-one here escapes a critical examination of there asseverations.   

My convictions bring me to the conclusion that you are phenomenally mistaken.  Are you satisfied with that as an argument? If you are, I suggest that you may be posting on the wrong board.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 08:59:36 AM »

I have no moral qualms with either.

Seriously. Anyone who thinks badly towards either needs a long hard look at the mirror.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 12:40:09 PM »

To be honest, I don't see a very big difference between prostitution, pornography, and other lines of work.

For me, I can't help but feel a little shame every morning when I walk into work to make maps. I have this feeling that I'm prostituting my mind out, which to a great degree is true despite the fact that I'm working on projects that I want very much to see happen. It would be a bit sad for me to pass judgment on a stripper for doing the same thing - putting their assets (mental and physical) out for hire.


The problem with prostitution and pornography, IMO, is exploitation. This is more or less a constant factor any time money is involved.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 02:36:27 PM »

Ok, here is why I ask the question: Prostitution always existed and was always moreless accepted if not a legal activity while pronography practicaly inexistant. In the Middle Age prostitution was an accepted practice even if moraly condemned. There was officialy 40 prostitutes for 1000 inhabitants in west european cities. This was huge by comparision to today in the same regions. But no one dared producing articraft openly pornographical. Masturbation was sin much worse than having a prostitute.

I wondered why. But it makes sens. Today more than ever.

Pornography is reaching out to much more poeple than prostitution, thus have a much bigger impact on society.
It's cheap and you can find it everywhere. For real sex, you need to move a little bit more and, even more difficult find somebody to your taste.

Pornography also allows the exhibition of fantasms and situations much more difficult to realise in reality with real poeple. Or requires from the sexworker more degradating acts and less protection than a normal prostituted intercourse would. Prostituted intercourse are most of the time the same, based on local habits while pornography is virtualy without boundaries.

Not only pornography is affecting many more poeple, but it affects them with images much more sick and perverse than what a prostitute would do.
I'm not saying prostitution is good. No it's also bad and in its modern form, often sordid, frustrating and degradating for both the worker and the client.
What I'm saying is that pronography have more devastating effect on the minds than prostitution due to its larger audiance, cheap access, ubiquity and especialy perverse nature.


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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 03:05:14 PM »

And we are raising a generation of young men with these images in mind........

These are the leaders of tomorrow.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 03:41:57 PM »

And we are raising a generation of young men with these images in mind........

These are the leaders of tomorrow.


ohh noo! A generation that is not shamefull of sex. What will we ever do!
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