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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2008, 08:17:12 AM » |
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Abraxas:
Let's hope the Chinese switch from the gun muzzle to the olive branch. One would think that they would exercise a little tact with the Olympics coming up but apparently not.
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2008, 04:03:21 PM » |
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Stop talking about China and start acting, until is not too late, or you'll all end up eating low calories rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Start looking for the label when you go shopping for a DVD player, you cheapo.
Personally, I cannot understand how somebody can be happy with let's say a 50$ cheap discount, no name machine, that will go bust in less than 2 years. I prefer to buy a 100-200$ top of the line, longer lasting and with a piece of mind.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2008, 07:27:35 PM » |
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I have scanned all sections in the political discussions - I seem to have missed the thread that condemns the Chinese suppression of the Tibetans culture, that denies their basic human rights and kills non-violent protesters.
If I've overlooked, please point me in the right direction. If not, where is the righteous indignation of the right? Hiding behind Olympic profits?
Serfdom is a major part of Tibetan culture. If you were indicating that "culture " that China deprived from those slave-owner, I will tell you, we are proud of that. And you , you do not know what you are talking about, do you? |
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 07:29:22 PM » |
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Well, someone had to start a thread to begin with, don't you think. So why not you? IAP supports FREE TIBET! I strongly ask for a resign of your moderator title because you are not suitable for that. Jail yourslef. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2008, 07:31:20 PM » |
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Berlin 1936 all over again?
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2008, 07:34:45 PM » |
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Berlin 1936 all over again?
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Yup. Some people learn their lessons well, don't they. Fail to see your analogy applying to Tibet, but it holds well elsewhere.... Yes, I was referring to the Olympics. In a sense, one could possibly compare Tibetans to Jews in Germany-a repressed and mistreated group. OswaldTheOsprey Too bad you are ignorance but this time it is not bliss. We all see you make fool of yourself without being alerted except I, your Godfather. You are backing up a political regime which was defined as "Slavery", you SOB! Get your own life elsewhere! |
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Abraxas
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 07:43:02 PM » |
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dolphin123, please refrain from:
A) Serial posting. We'd like to keep all posts and opinions in one post if possible. You can edit your posts or multi-quote if you need to. It saves banswidth.
B) Questioning the decisions of mods on the forum. If you have a problem with a member of the staff, send a courteous PM to either that person or another member of the staff.
Thank you.
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« Last Edit: April 07, 2008, 07:46:18 PM by Abraxas »
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 05:28:57 AM » |
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Don't worry about it Abraxas. Dolphin's just on his high horse because he's one of the special ones allowed to post on internet forums. Probably all he had to do for the privilege is get sterilized. Considering the Chinese who have been sentenced to years in prison for saying what they think on international Internet forums, we can understand Dophin for the party puppet he is by proxy of his presence. It's obvious he's going to tow any line handed to him. His mind is not his own, it belongs to the "People". Serfdom is a major part of Tibetan culture. No, surfdom is a major part of Chinese culture. You have it confused. Now go build my railway. I strongly ask for a resign of your moderator title because you are not suitable for that. Jail yourslef. 3 posts in and already he figures people should be put in jail for what they say. Oh....AND FREE FUCKING TIBET! Ahk |
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 07:05:54 PM » |
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Berlin 1936 all over again?
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Yup. Some people learn their lessons well, don't they. Fail to see your analogy applying to Tibet, but it holds well elsewhere.... Yes, I was referring to the Olympics. In a sense, one could possibly compare Tibetans to Jews in Germany-a repressed and mistreated group. OswaldTheOsprey Too bad you are ignorance but this time it is not bliss. We all see you make fool of yourself without being alerted except I, your Godfather. You are backing up a political regime which was defined as "Slavery", you SOB! Get your own life elsewhere!  :sleepy:Someone say something? OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2008, 06:14:51 AM » |
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I believe China's soveriegn claim over Tibet is substantially equal to the US claim over California.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2008, 08:09:20 AM » |
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Not entirely accurate. As I understand it, "The Convention Between Great Britain, China, and Tibet" in Simla in 1914 is still the document that defines Tibet's autonomy - thus making China's claim on the region null and void. "Article 2. The Governments of Great Britain and China recognizing that Tibet is under the suzerainty of China, and recognizing also the autonomy of Outer Tibet, engage to respect the territorial integrity of the country, and to abstain from interference in the administration of Outer Tibet (including the selection and installation of the Dalai Lama), which shall remain in the hands of the Tibetan Government at Lhasa.
The Government of China engages not to convert Tibet into a Chinese province. The Government of Great Britain engages not to annex Tibet or any portion of it."- LINKChina violated this agreement in the '50s when they invaded Tibet, crushed what little military resistence Tibet offered and forced them to sign the "Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet". But even this agreement allowed Tibet "the right of exercising national regional autonomy," though "under the unified leadership of the Central People's Government" LINK (yes, it's Wikipedia... so sue me. It's just the translation, anyway). Basically, I think it's more approrpriate to say China has as much right to Tibet as we do to Peurto Rico... I'm not afraid to admit that my knowledge on the subject doesn't go beyond what little I've read around the internet. I'm not asserting that I'm right, just that given what I've read, I disagree. |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2008, 02:05:32 PM » |
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Not entirely accurate.
As I understand it, "The Convention Between Great Britain, China, and Tibet" in Simla in 1914 is still the document that defines Tibet's autonomy - thus making China's claim on the region null and void.
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An excellent post as an argument against an alleged Chinese claim to a long-standing legal claim upon Tibet. However, I didn't make that argument or assertion. I'm no Chinese partisan.  As far as I'm concerned, China's sovereign right over Tibet is indeed similar to the US right over Spanish California, which is very similar to Britain's right over Quebec, which is very similar to England's right over Wales, and France's right over Brittainy and Provencal (I'm too lazy and English arrogant to put proper accent-thingies on foreign words). That is to say, they exist by 'right of conquest' and subsequent occupation. |
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2008, 02:32:39 PM » |
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^^^
I'll trade 'em Quebec for Tibet in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2008, 07:46:42 AM » |
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This is what I mean: China rages over attack on disabled torch bearerHow is this rational? How does this make you look better? You hit a person in a WHEEL CHAIR, for God's sake! This just makes China look that much better by comparison... And a new twist to the whole thing? Japan says no to Chinese torch guards: reportsCurious to see how this goes... |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
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- Hunter S. Thompson
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