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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2008, 07:59:30 AM » |
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I'll trade 'em Quebec for Tibet in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2008, 08:24:09 AM » |
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Yes. Edmonton Alberta.
edit. split the rest to lobby
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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2008, 12:27:23 PM » |
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Did you see? China says that they have found weapons in Tibetian monasteries. Pure forgery IMO. Link |
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2008, 08:05:00 PM » |
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Don't you hear of the saying that you don't have say-so if you don't investigate the true facts ?
Most of you haven't gone to China and the message you get are almost wrong.
I hope you realize that all of you are cheated by DaLai LaMa and your media such as CNN.
I restate the truth that Tibet was,is and will be a part of China forever.
I suggest and welcome all of you to come to China for finding out the facts using your own eyes.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2008, 05:47:14 AM » |
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^^ Brought to you by the Chinese politburo.
Unfortunately solvay since we know how much effort China puts into subduing free speech and halting their citizens from posting their true opinions online -- with penalties of up to 30 years in prison for criticizing the gov't -- well, that kinda makes your opinion worth all the snot in my nose.
Tell me if it was "always part of China" then why did you have to kill so many when you sent your army in? In fact why did you have to kill so many at all? Why did you have to banish the priests if it was "always part of China"? Where did they come from? Why did you have to destroy their monistaries? Where did they come from? Maybe the Japanese taught you well at Nanking?
Oh and welcome to the forum.
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2008, 09:45:38 AM » |
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The problem is not that Tibet is part of China. The problem is that China was communist and still led by the communist party. Something that Tibetian cannot accept and we understand why.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2008, 04:36:27 PM » |
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I believe China's soveriegn claim over Tibet is substantially equal to the US claim over California.
Bully for you! Prove it. Not entirely accurate.
As I understand it, "The Convention Between Great Britain, China, and Tibet" in Simla in 1914 is still the document that defines Tibet's autonomy - thus making China's claim on the region null and void.
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An excellent post as an argument against an alleged Chinese claim to a long-standing legal claim upon Tibet. However, I didn't make that argument or assertion. I'm no Chinese partisan.  As far as I'm concerned, China's sovereign right over Tibet is indeed similar to the US right over Spanish California, which is very similar to Britain's right over Quebec, which is very similar to England's right over Wales, and France's right over Brittainy and Provencal (I'm too lazy and English arrogant to put proper accent-thingies on foreign words). That is to say, they exist by 'right of conquest' and subsequent occupation. Except that California is an accomplished fact and Tibet is far from being as Sinicized as California is Americanized. |
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2008, 04:59:56 AM » |
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Well, someone had to start a thread to begin with, don't you think. So why not you? IAP supports FREE TIBET! IAP supports war against China? Count me out please. |
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2008, 08:50:42 AM » |
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Free tibet doesn't mean war against China.
And the Dalai Lama doesn't want war.
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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2008, 08:49:56 AM » |
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free Tibet may well mean war. Freedom tends to come through wars pretty often.
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2008, 09:26:29 AM » |
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Free tibet doesn't mean war against China.
And the Dalai Lama doesn't want war.
I don't give a crap what the Dalai Lama wants or doesn't want. To "free Tibet" requires war with China. I see no other available option. |
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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2008, 09:44:56 AM » |
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Freedom tends to come through wars pretty often. Eww! Eww! Bookmarked. Gonna remember that quote. There we go. Right beside, "you can't bring freedom at the end of a rifle". |
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2008, 01:57:02 PM » |
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Free tibet doesn't mean war against China.
And the Dalai Lama doesn't want war.
I don't give a crap what the Dalai Lama wants or doesn't want. To "free Tibet" requires war with China. I see no other available option. I do seeone however: China gives tibetians what they want. |
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« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2008, 05:30:48 AM » |
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"you can't bring freedom at the end of a rifle". watch "Braveheart" again. That was a spear, not a rifle, though. I know you like another quote better: Freedom comes on the wings of the court room papers. Alas, there are not enough competent juries and judges to awards freedom to everyone. |
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Free tibet doesn't mean war against China.
And the Dalai Lama doesn't want war.
I don't give a crap what the Dalai Lama wants or doesn't want. To "free Tibet" requires war with China. I see no other available option. I do seeone however: China gives tibetians what they want. Good luck with that. |
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