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« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2008, 05:05:52 AM » |
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Thank you for your advice.But I guess you don't know why I call Mr Cauboi Mr "MOTHER FUCKER" You'd best watch the thread "a chinese wanna say something about Tibet". I don't care why you call him that. It is something you feel free to use, so you should be fine with it being used on you. Do you knot know the Golden Rule? Is that taught to you by your communist overlords? So you called these are propaganda,but first all of things showed in the viedo are the truth,all of us can see it.The voice we wanna you hear is that some westerner media they are telling lies.Some evdiences are showed in this video too.I don't wanna say How great China and Chinese are,I just wanna let you know our opinions on Tibet and the western media are liars.And I also wanna say maybe the way we express our opinion are not right,but this is our most Chinese heart voice.
If you think it is all truth, then you are stupid. Or incapable of thinking for yourself. I'll cover just one quick point in it. You do not deserve more than that. Your propaganda film says that the chinese people were caused to rush to invest in your stock market by the surging prices before it fell. This is the worst sort of blame shifting ever. Did anyone use force to make them invest? NO, of course not. They rushed to do so because they thought they could make a buck in the rising market. Then it went south. That happens all over the world. They gambled. They lost. Oh well. You show how immature your mentality is by attempting to find someone else to blame for YOUR own actions. That is what small children do. Adults take responsibility for their actions. Grow up and join the rest of the world.
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« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2008, 05:50:43 AM » |
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Thank you for your advice.But I guess you don't know why I call Mr Cauboi Mr "MOTHER FUCKER" You'd best watch the thread "a chinese wanna say something about Tibet". I don't care why you call him that. It is something you feel free to use, so you should be fine with it being used on you. Do you knot know the Golden Rule? Is that taught to you by your communist overlords? So you called these are propaganda,but first all of things showed in the viedo are the truth,all of us can see it.The voice we wanna you hear is that some westerner media they are telling lies.Some evdiences are showed in this video too.I don't wanna say How great China and Chinese are,I just wanna let you know our opinions on Tibet and the western media are liars.And I also wanna say maybe the way we express our opinion are not right,but this is our most Chinese heart voice.
If you think it is all truth, then you are stupid. Or incapable of thinking for yourself. I'll cover just one quick point in it. You do not deserve more than that. Your propaganda film says that the chinese people were caused to rush to invest in your stock market by the surging prices before it fell. This is the worst sort of blame shifting ever. Did anyone use force to make them invest? NO, of course not. They rushed to do so because they thought they could make a buck in the rising market. Then it went south. That happens all over the world. They gambled. They lost. Oh well. You show how immature your mentality is by attempting to find someone else to blame for YOUR own actions. That is what small children do. Adults take responsibility for their actions. Grow up and join the rest of the world. hehe...first,I didn't say any rude words about you call me "MOTHER FUCKER",right?I just wanna explain about it. Western media didn't tell the truth,you still don't believe it???They can take an ambulance as an army car,they can take an Indian as an Chinese.We can go to their offical website,and we can see the pictures and articles with our own eyes.Besides,this video is not made by government this video is made by a common Chinese. You think the video are not the truth.Then I would like to ask you,for the same reason,are you sure what's your government said are all the truth??? In this video,can't you see some "kind" monks in your eyes attacked people on the road in Tibet??Can't you see the pictures that some monks attacked a people??(I think the picture are very clearly).These are evidence to show the truth,right?? What about the stock market,this is not the main problem we are talking about.
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« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2008, 05:50:56 AM » |
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Yep. I'd say it's a case of wrapping yourself in the flag because otherwise your naked shame would be displayed for all to see. What's you mean??? You have no leg to stand on in your argument so you're resorting to xenophobic nationalism rather than making a reasoned case for your opinion.
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« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2008, 06:03:14 AM » |
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[/quote]You have no leg to stand on in your argument so you're resorting to xenophobic nationalism rather than making a reasoned case for your opinion. [/quote]
What is my argument??For me,I just wanna let you know the western media are liars and the real face of Dalai Lama. I think there are so many evidences are showed in these video.And I just wanna let you can watch the hot video in China!That's it. And I don't love my country blindly.I know the shortages of the government and the country.I was always critized my government as many Chinese people.But when my motherland are faceing a tough time,I'll support her without any hesitation as many Chinese people.
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« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2008, 06:06:13 AM » |
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hehe...first,I didn't say any rude words about you call me "MOTHER FUCKER",right?I just wanna explain about it. Western media didn't tell the truth,you still don't believe it???They can take an ambulance as an army car,they can take an Indian as an Chinese.We can go to their offical website,and we can see the pictures and articles with our own eyes.Besides,this video is not made by government this video is made by a common Chinese. You think the video are not the truth.Then I would like to ask you,for the same reason,are you sure what's your government said are all the truth??? In this video,can't you see some "kind" monks in your eyes attacked people on the road in Tibet??Can't you see the pictures that some monks attacked a people??(I think the picture are very clearly).These are evidence to show the truth,right?? What about the stock market,this is not the main problem we are talking about.
Some points: 1. You used rude words. So you should be fine with them used on you. Period. If it bothers you, then you shouldn't use them. B. Knowing your video is full of lies and saying it does not imply that I buy what western media says. This is a lie by you. It is possible they both lie. Please attempt to use at least a little logic in your responses. Or point out where I said western media doesn't lie. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up with that lie. III. I said I was going to cover one point in your propaganda movie. Not all of them. What I did was show you one part where your movie lies. The implication being that if it lies there, it is possible it lies in other points. Understand? The honesty of the makes of your movie is shown to be suspect.
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« Reply #80 on: May 01, 2008, 06:33:11 AM » |
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hehe...first,I didn't say any rude words about you call me "MOTHER FUCKER",right?I just wanna explain about it. Western media didn't tell the truth,you still don't believe it???They can take an ambulance as an army car,they can take an Indian as an Chinese.We can go to their offical website,and we can see the pictures and articles with our own eyes.Besides,this video is not made by government this video is made by a common Chinese. You think the video are not the truth.Then I would like to ask you,for the same reason,are you sure what's your government said are all the truth??? In this video,can't you see some "kind" monks in your eyes attacked people on the road in Tibet??Can't you see the pictures that some monks attacked a people??(I think the picture are very clearly).These are evidence to show the truth,right?? What about the stock market,this is not the main problem we are talking about.
Some points: 1. You used rude words. So you should be fine with them used on you. Period. If it bothers you, then you shouldn't use them. B. Knowing your video is full of lies and saying it does not imply that I buy what western media says. This is a lie by you. It is possible they both lie. Please attempt to use at least a little logic in your responses. Or point out where I said western media doesn't lie. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up with that lie. III. I said I was going to cover one point in your propaganda movie. Not all of them. What I did was show you one part where your movie lies. The implication being that if it lies there, it is possible it lies in other points. Understand? The honesty of the makes of your movie is shown to be suspect. 1.Yes,I used the rude words.But not for you as you call me with rude words.You don't know the reason why I use rude words.So I think "You should shut the fuck up!!!!!" B.Obviously.What I said is the truth (only for western media are liars),if you wanna find some excuses I don't care.And I didn't say all of my country said are the truth. III. The part you think are lies of the video ,I just wanna ask you a question,Do you wanna make money??Becoming richer is a native for most people in every country,right??Yes, nobody forced them,but western country know the native of human beings,right.
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« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2008, 07:04:47 AM » |
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You are waste. Discussing with you is a waste. You ignore your issues and focus on everyone else. You are completely brainwashed and are unable to think for yourself. Maybe you should talk to our 9/11 truthers. You and them are the same. Facts mean nothing to either of you.
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« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2008, 07:14:17 AM » |
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Talking to me is a waste??!!What a coincidence!!!I have the same feeling with you!!!!  I am brainwashed???Maybe!!But I think you are brainwashed by your country too.Even when you are facing the evdience,you still insist your wrong idea. I respect the truth,but none of us can say all of we know are the truth!!! But the people under the Dalai Lama killed Han Chinese on the road is the truth.Those people want to rob the Olympic torch is the truth.The western media are liars is the truth. What's the truth on Tibet in you opinion??Can you show me some evdience???
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« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2008, 07:25:56 AM » |
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Talking to me is a waste??!!What a coincidence!!!I have the same feeling with you!!!!  I am brainwashed???Maybe!!But I think you are brainwashed by your country too.Even when you are facing the evdience,you still insist your wrong idea. I respect the truth,but none of us can say all of we know are the truth!!! But the people under the Dalai Lama killed Han Chinese on the road is the truth.Those people want to rob the Olympic torch is the truth.The western media are liars is the truth. What's the truth on Tibet in you opinion??Can you show me some evdience??? The evidence of Chinese government brutality in Tibet, Chinese government disregard for human rights in Tibet and Chinese cultural imperialism in Tibet are plainly obvious for the world to witness on a daily basis. That being said, the Chinese government is just as brutal and just as reckless with human rights with their own Chinese people too. Chinese apologists aren't likely to make any sales around here.
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« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2008, 02:29:03 PM » |
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When I see shit like this, I'm loosing my liberal mind. I start wondering if I can ever vote for the Liberal party again, for fear of the Reds taking over the world. As much as I don't like Bush and his gang, I believe, for as long there communists still exist anywhere in this world, I will give my vote to Conservatives from now on.
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« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2008, 02:39:33 PM » |
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....and Zhr,
bro, my name is not Mr. Cauboi, just Cauboi and I never called YOU a mother-fucker, I used the word to describe your government. If you cannot accept that insult made to your government, it proves you are a total brainwashed idiot.
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« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2008, 04:49:19 PM » |
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What is my argument??For me,I just wanna let you know the western media are liars and the real face of Dalai Lama. I think there are so many evidences are showed in these video.And I just wanna let you can watch the hot video in China!That's it. And I don't love my country blindly.I know the shortages of the government and the country.I was always critized my government as many Chinese people.But when my motherland are faceing a tough time,I'll support her without any hesitation as many Chinese people.
"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober". G.K. Chesterton This is hardly a desperate case. So the Chinese government got a little egg on its face and some foolish investors lost their shirts. . . so what! Does this Tibet flap substantially threaten the Chinese people's lives or livelihoods? Hardly. Much ado about a grievance which amounts to nothing substantial. The evidence of Chinese government brutality in Tibet, Chinese government disregard for human rights in Tibet and Chinese cultural imperialism in Tibet are plainly obvious for the world to witness on a daily basis.
That being said, the Chinese government is just as brutal and just as reckless with human rights with their own Chinese people too.
Chinese apologists aren't likely to make any sales around here.
Hear! Hear!
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« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2008, 05:09:01 PM » |
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If you cannot accept that insult made to your government, it proves you are a total brainwashed idiot.
You think every government is same or similar for treating their people.If you think so it shows that you are ignorant.Your great US government push power politics all over the world. You forget the bloody history that you country invade the China.For you great country and other western countrys the chinese people suffer from the gone disasters. Looking the report from the New York Times last sunday.April 20.2008 The US government has used military analysts to generate favorable news coverage of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.Most of these analysts have ties to defense contractors who make a big fortune from the wars and they admit that they suppressed doubts about the Bush administration's misinformation out of fear of jeopardizing their access or contracts.Hidden behind that appearance, though, they gave ideological and military allegiances to the government.the analysts have been wooed in hundreds of private briefings with senior military leaders, including officials with significant influence over contracting and budget matters."It was them saying, 'We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you,'" said Robert S. Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst. The findings of the New York Times were based on 8,000 pages of e-mail messages, transcripts and records describing years of private briefings, trips to Iraq and an extensive Pentagon talking points operation.These records "reveal a symbiotic relationship where the usual dividing lines between government and journalism have been obliterated". Some datas shows the Tibet event occured on March 14 has to do with the CIA.The Democratic Fund of Country as a underling institution of CIA imburses Dalai Lama at all times. Is the US gov really care the Tibetans ? NO,they just take Dalai Lama as a tool to disturb China and try to make another the colorful revolution to achieve their irremissible purpose. Some Western politicians and media entities are in fact representatives of business interests and usually base their opinions on foreign relations on this fact, says a signed commentary in Hong Kong-based Wen Wei Po. The following is an excerpt: They may claim they care about "human rights" and "freedom of religion" in other countries, but they actually support or ignore the same things at different times, depending on whether they believe it will benefit their countries or not. Over the recent riots in Tibet many Western politicians and media outlets again teamed up to blame China. This reflects a significant change in international strategic plan, by which the Western alliance of interests has reached a sort of consensus that it is time to suppress China's development and isolate it. There is no better example than the United States to illustrate this greed-based hypocrisy. The US government supported the Tibetan separatists financially, militarily as well morally throughout the 1950s and the 1960s but stopped abruptly when President Richard Nixon's administration decided to enlist China in order to pursue its rivalry against the Soviet Union in the early 1970s. It was also the time when Tibet was suffering from the ravages of the "cultural revolution" like the rest of China. In the early 1980s when monasteries were restored, and people's freedom and living standards were improved substantially, the US began to play up the "human rights" issue. The fundamental reason is that great changes had by then taken place in the Soviet Union and East Europe. For its own interest, the US resumed its financial support to the Dalai group.
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« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2008, 06:34:33 PM » |
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Of course the CIA loves to stir up trouble in China if it can. But you need to actually back up a claim like 'Some datas shows the Tibet event occured on March 14 has to do with the CIA.' and by back it up I mean show actual proof. Not your usual 'we all know' bullshit. Back up what you say, or STFU.
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« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2008, 06:43:36 PM » |
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By trying to criticize the U.S. government (which for sure can be blamed for many bad things happening around the world, I don't deny that) you try to shift the focus from the bad reputation China has got throughout the world as one of the few most oppressive regimes.
What is even worse for China, (if you want to compare with U.S.) is that China is killing it's own people, unlike U.S. that might be killing someone else, overseas. Seems like Chinese hate each other for I don't see any reason other than some are communists and the others not. Some believe in beloved Mao, others don't like him.
Same thing happens in America right now: some folks love Bush, some not. But if I get up and shout my anti-Bush slogans in a public place, after that can I go eat a hamburger and drink a beer. In China if you try to shout anti-Mao slogans, after that you go to hell, eat shit and drink pee....and of course you disappear from the face of the Earth after that.
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