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« Reply #165 on: May 08, 2008, 01:11:35 AM »

This from the site of the 8-time America quadrennial political circus aspirant, Lyndon LaRouche. Of course, he is not liked by the rulers of America, but hey, just another for those whining that it is only "Chinese people" against what is going on.

From: http://larouchepac.com/news/2008/04/10/british-use-tibet-networks-war-china-again.html

British Use Tibet Networks for War On China - Again

by Mike Billington
 
April 10, 2008 (LPAC)--Once again, the British have played their Tibet Card, unleashing a carefully orchestrated, racist riot in Lhasa, and cranking out lies and anti-China hysteria through their global media empire. This is not the first time Tibet has figured in a British war plan against China. In 1932, as the world was descending into Hell after the collapse of the world financial system--just as it is today--the British provoked chaos across Eurasia. Hitler's rise to power was financed by the Bank of England's Montagu Norman and his friends in the Bush and Harriman families in the United States, with the intention of instigating a war between the Nazis and the Soviet Union, expecting them to bleed each other to death. Meanwhile, Japan was instigated by London and its J.P. Morgan interests in New York to move into Manchuria, with the aim of seizing the wealth of China for the Anglo-Japanese alliance, while threatening the Soviets from the East, and ending the hated Republic of China, founded under the leadership of the great champion of the American System, Sun Yat Sen.

To aid in that Japanese invasion of China--which officially launched World War II--the British activated their Tibetan assets as a second front, sending Tibetan troops against the forces of the Chinese Republic in southwest China, aimed at grabbing new pieces of China for an expanded "Greater Tibet." As the British-edited China Year Book stated in that year, the British-armed Tibetan operation was well on its way to being "restored to its ancient boundry."

Then, as today, the British also activated their assets in Western China among the Islamic Uighur population, to cut even more chunks out of the Republic of China, for an entity they called Eastern Turkestan (see accompanying article).
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The British have never hidden their alliance and ideological agreement with the Nazis in their Tibet operations--neither before World War II, nor afterwards. In the 1930s, Tibet was under the direction of a senior officer of the Raj in India, Hugh Richardson, who had come to Tibet in 1932 to attempt to coerce the Chinese to give up their historic claim to Tibet as an integral part of China, and to give up more areas of China to Greater Tibet. He stayed in Lhasa, performing essentially the same function as the British Resident in an Indian state, providing weapons and direction to the local authorities, under the direction of the 13th Dalai Lama, who preceded the current Dalai Lama.

A Nazi Waffen SS delegation was deployed to Tibet by Heinrich Himmler in 1939, headed by Ernst Schaefer, intending to establish relations with the land reputed in Nazi lore to be the true source of the pure Aryan race. One member of the expedition, Bruno Beger, was an ethnologist, who was measuring skulls and body parts, attempting to prove the biological ties between the Tibetans and the Nazis. He befriended the Regent for the young 14th Dalai Lama, and later became a lifelong friend of the Dalai Lama himself. He also became a convicted war criminal, for his later work on Jews in the Nazi concentration camps, trying to find a biological means for determining Jewish origin.
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British consul Hugh Richardson had to be a bit careful with these kindred spirits; Britain was, after all, on the brink of war with Germany after Der Fuerher turned against his British sponsors, and especially after the Hitler-Stalin Pact in September 1939. Richardson kept his distance at the time, but after that nasty little war with the Nazis was over, Richardson and Beger became the best of friends again.

So also did Richardson befriend SS officer Heinrich Harrer, made famous by the Hollywood glorification of his book Seven Years in Tibet in 1997. Harrer arrived in Tibet in 1944, living intimately with Richardson and the Dalai Lama, only leaving, with Richardson, when the Chinese returned to Tibet after the 1949 Chinese revolution. Both Harrer and Beger were members in good standing in the Tibet Society, founded by Richardson in 1959 to lead the campaign against China's sovereignty over Tibet. In 1994, the three of them held a grand reunion with the Dalai Lama, pledging their continued support for the independence of Tibet. A video of the Dalai Lama meeting his old friend Harrer in recent years, chatting about the good old days, is readily available on YouTube.

Thus it should be no surprise to read reports and see films showing that the Tibetan gangs who have just rampaged through Lhasa took a page from the Nazi pogroms, marking those shops and homes owned by ethnic Tibetans with white flags, and trashing and burning all others, regardless of the innocent people trapped inside. The films were provided by the Chinese, but were also confirmed by James Miles, the journalist for the London Economist, who was in Lhasa during the week of the riots.
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As Miles wrote: "What I saw was calculated targeted violence against an ethnic group, or, I should say, two ethnic groups, primarily ethnic Han Chinese living in Lhasa, but also members of the Muslim Hui minority in Lhasa." The rioters, Miles said, "marked those businesses that they knew to be Tibetan-owned with white traditional scarves. Those businesses were left intact. Almost every single other across a wide swathe of the city ... was either burned, looted, destroyed, smashed into, the property therein hauled out into the streets, piled up, burned. It was an extraordinary outpouring of ethnic violence of a most unpleasant nature to watch, which surprised some Tibetans watching it."

Miles also reported that the police did virtually nothing for several days, waited for the riot to run itself out, and only then moved in to secure the streets, "when they felt safe I think that there would not be massive bloodshed."

Despite this coverage, the world press constantly repeats the mantra that the Chinese kept the press out of Tibet during the riots, and that the Chinese must be held responsible for the violence. Those, like U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who travelled to visit the Dalai Lama after the riots, and lied that the slaughter of Han Chinese and Hui Chinese Muslims in Lhasa was the result of "Chinese oppression," must be asked: Why are you serving the racist British Empire?
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Tibetan 'Traditional Culture'

What is the Tibetan "traditional culture" which the Chinese are accused of destroying, and which the British (and the Nazis) admire so dearly? Before 1950,...about one-fourth of the population, entered the monkhood. The majority of those who were not monks were herdsmen or peasants, working as serfs on land owned by the government or by one of the thousands of monasteries. There was nearly total illiteracy among the peasantry, and even in the monkhood. Wooden plows and yaks were the only technology used by the peasants, who otherwise relied on brute-force labor; until the 20th Century, there were no wheeled vehicles in the country. Justice was at the whim of the nobility and the Dalai Lama, as there was no organized system of courts. Polyandry, where a wife was shared among all the brothers of a family, was common.

The British encouraged the Tibetans to prevent economic development, and that not even a single road should be built into Tibet. They wanted Tibet to be a buffer between the Raj in India and China, but, even more, to retain its "traditional culture," as a Shangri-la, the Valhalla of the Nazis. When the Chinese came in, with development, schools, hospitals, and roads, Richardson cried that, "a heavy curtain has descended upon Tibet, a state of cultural degeneration to which this whole people has now been reduced." China has also rebuilt the major monasteries and, since the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s, does not restrict traditional religious practices.

When challenged on the fact that China has helped Tibetans emerge from the dark ages, Richardson expressed the classic, racist colonial view: "Apologists may point to claims of material and mechanical progress, but even if these benefits ever reach the Tibetan population, the fact remains they were not sought by the Tibetan people themselves, and represent the total negation of Tibetan civilization and culture."
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British Outsourcing to the U.S.

When the Chinese returned to Tibet in 1950, Richardson left for London, where he continued sponsoring Tibetan military insurrections (with help from the CIA), while training up-and-coming British colonial agents at Cambridge (among them, Michael Aris, who married Burma's Aung San Suu Kyi, now the British-controlled asset in Myanmar/Burma). The Dalai Lama fled to India during a failed revolt in 1959, but the British and the CIA continued providing military training for Tibetans in exile through the 1960s and beyond.

When the U.S. establishment of relations with China in 1974, and formal recognition in 1979, ended the covert military operations, the "Tibet Card" was transformed into a "human rights" campaign. President Carter issued the Dalai Lama his first visa to the United States in 1979, and a nest of members of Congress began fawning over "His Holiness the Dalai Lama." During the 1980s, a number of covert operations were "privatized" to the semi-government National Endowment for Democracy (NED), carrying out "regime change" through political subversion rather than military invasion.
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In 1988, Tibet House was set up in New York by Hollywood's (insert here the name of a braindead washed up actor) and Robert Thurman, the Columbia University professor who is considered the reigning "expert" on Tibet since the death of Hugh Richardson. The next year, the same crew set up the International Campaign for Tibet (ICT), which has become the command center for anti-China operations using the Tibet Card. To understand the nature of this British creation, consider Thurman's pedigree:

Thurman was a 68er who dropped out of Harvard to marry oil heiress Christoph de Menil. When the marriage fell apart, he wandered around India on a motorcycle, ending up spending several years with the Dalai Lama, and becoming the first Westerner to be ordained as a Tantric Buddhist monk. When he returned to the United State a few years later, to become a spokesman for the Dalai Lama, he met the wife of acid-freak Timothy Leary, renounced his robes, and married her as soon as her divorce came through. He went on to become a professor at Columbia University, and the leading liar before the Congress and similar dens of corruption around the world, on behalf of the Dalai Lama and against China. His daughter Uma (imagine her childhood!) is a sex-goddess movie star, now making slasher films.

The ICT receives about $5 million in donations annually, and works in close coordination with the World Wide Fund for Nature, the green fascist movement created by the British and Dutch royal families, which deploys millions of dollars internationally on behalf of the effort to revive the Empire. Also in league with the ICT is Amnesty International, the British intelligence network deployed against nations targetted by the Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy.

Although some operational control has been outsourced to the Americans, London is still running the show. Exemplary of this was the 1995 proposal published in the New York Council on Foreign Relations journal, Foreign Affairs, called "China's Changing Shape," by Gerald Segal, the Director of Studies at London's International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a leading British Imperial think tank. The map which he presents reduces China to about one-half its current size, with the rest divided up between the independent states of Greater Tibet, East Turkestan, Mongolia, and Manchuria. Not surpisingly, the home page of the ICT website prominently features precisely such a map, and the Dalai Lama clique insists that Tibet be considered as this larger piece of China in their negotiations with Beijing.
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The Current Turmoil

The racist explosion in Lhasa on March 14 was not spontaneous. In the early 1990s, ICT board member Mark Handelman arranged for 1,000 children of the Tibetans in the Dalai Lama circles in India to receive special compensation for visas to the United States. Among them was Tsewang Rigzin, who lived in the U.S. for over 12 years, became a citizen, and worked in the local offices of the Tibetan Youth Congress, set up by the Dalai Lama's supporters in Dharamsala, India, in the 1970s. Rigzin was in close communication with the ICT in the United States.

In August of 2007, Rigzin returned to Dharamsala, and was elected to head the Youth Congress. He immediately began campaigning for a march from Dharamsala to Tibet on the March 10 anniversary of the Dalai Lama's flight from Tibet. Such overt political activity is explicitly forbidden by the conditions agreed upon between the Indian government and the Dalai Lama, for his residence in India. Rigzin then set up the Tibetan People's Uprising Organization with four other exile groups, which openly opposed the pledge of non-violence professed by the Dalai Lama, and called for an international boycott of the Beijing Olympics--something which the Dalai Lama has refused to do. Thus, a classic British intelligence "hard cop-soft cop" dichotomy was set up, and was played by the world press whores who serve the British imperial plans.

The Chinese have provided proof that the Youth Congress, while professing a distance from the Dalai Lama himself, extensively organized for demonstrations and rioting in cities in Tibet, China, and around the world, for March 10 and the following days. Their "march on Tibet" from Dharamsala was quickly stopped by the Indian authorities, but when the race riots broke out on March 14, the violence spread across China and the region, coordinated by the Youth Congress networks. Although there appear to have been no rioters killed in Lhasa, there may have been several dozen killed in other Chinese cities.
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The British War Plan

The target of convenience for the British war plan against China is the Summer Olympics in Beijing. The carrying of the Olympic Torch around the world provides a series of high-profile events for the ICT to mobilize demonstrations and disruptions. But the Olympics are incidental--the British war plan is driven by the pace of economic disintegration descending on the world economy in the wake of the collapse of the world financial system in the Summer of 2007. The primary targets are the major powers of Eurasia--China, Russia, and India--not because of their power in itself, but because the primary danger in the eyes of the Anglo-Dutch financial interests is an FDR-style alliance of the U.S.A., Russia, China, and India, against the emerging fascist order. This is the driving force behind the British campaign to drag the U.S. into an Atlantic alliance against Asia, a danger that must be exposed and destroyed.
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« Reply #166 on: May 08, 2008, 01:13:31 AM »

How about another from a non-China source?

From: www.salon.com/news/1998/07/13news.html

Article by Christopher Hitchens, a columnist for Vanity Fair

"The Dalai Lama has come out in support of the thermonuclear tests recently conducted by the Indian state, and has done so in the very language of the chauvinist parties who now control that state's affairs. The "developed" countries, he says, must realize that India is a major contender and should not concern themselves with its internal affairs. This is a perfectly realpolitik statement, so crass and banal and opportunist that it would not deserve any comment if it came from another source.

But here are some other facts about the serene leader that, dwarfed as they are by his endorsement of nuclear weapons, are still worth knowing and still generally unknown.

    * Shoko Asahara, leader of the Supreme Truth cult in Japan and spreader of sarin nerve gas on the Tokyo subway, donated 45 million rupees, or about 170 million yen (about $1.2 million), to the Dalai Lama and was rewarded for his efforts by several high-level meetings with the divine one.

    * Steven Seagal, the robotic and moronic "actor" who gave us "Hard to Kill" and "Under Siege," has been proclaimed a reincarnated lama and a sacred vessel or "tulku" of Tibetan Buddhism. This decision, ratified by Penor Rinpoche, supreme head of the Nyingma School of Tibetan Buddhism, was initially received with incredulity by (insert the name of another braindead, washed-up hollywood goof), who had hitherto believed himself to be the superstar most favored. "If someone's a tulku, that's great," he was quoted as saying. "But no one knows if that's true." How insightful, if only accidentally. At a subsequent Los Angeles appearance by the Dalai Lama, Seagal was seated in the front row and (other washed up loser) two rows back, thus giving the latter's humility and submissiveness a day at the races. Suggestions that Seagal's fortune helped elevate him to the Himalayan status of tulku are not completely discounted even by some adepts and initiates.

    * Supporters of the Dorge Shugden deity -- a "Dharma protector" and an ancient object of worship and propitiation in Tibet -- have been threatened with violence and ostracism and even death following the Dalai Lama's abrupt prohibition of this once-venerated godhead. A Swiss television documentary graphically intercuts footage of "His Holiness", denying all knowledge of menace and intimidation, with scenes of his followers' enthusiastically promulgating "Wanted" posters and other paraphernalia of excommunication and persecution.

    * While he denies being a Buddhist "Pope," the Dalai Lama is never happier than when brooding in a celibate manner on the sex lives of people he has never met. "Sexual misconduct for men and women consists of oral and anal sex," he has repeatedly said in promoting his book on these matters. "Using one's hand, that is sexual misconduct." But, as ever with religious stipulations, there is a nutty escape clause. "To have sexual relations with a prostitute paid by you and not by a third person does not constitute improper behavior."
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« Reply #167 on: May 08, 2008, 04:36:37 AM »

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My Gawd but your childish!

I would really rather use this thread that is supposed to be about Tibet for the truth about Tibet, but what the heck, I'll do both.

Since you don't know anything about China and have never lived in China

blah blah blah. You've lied about every single thing from Chinese being thrown in jail for criticizing the government to the Chinese government not restricting how many children people can have to being a Canadian to, well, everything else you've said.

Nothing but non-stop lying from you canchin and the fact you're not even embarrassed by it is more than enough reason to ignore your jibberish.

By the way posting blog opinions is another way to get laughed at.


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« Reply #168 on: May 08, 2008, 06:01:04 AM »

Admins ,  dudes!

You gonna get flooded with Chinese propaganda. I think you really got the attention of the Commies.
Time for you guys to buy a new server Smiley
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« Reply #169 on: May 08, 2008, 06:21:39 AM »

you people are really funny to cheat yourself by immagining what the outside world should be.
Pls learn more foreign languages, especially Chinese, so that you can tell what the Chinese is really thinking. Do not always be cheated by your bosses. Terriblly ignorant indeed....
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/ is a really good choice for you to have a look what your Chinese counterparts are really thinking and What China really is.


You are thinking highly of yourselves, but you are in your sleepy dreams.
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« Reply #170 on: May 08, 2008, 09:55:10 AM »

I already know what Chinese think about China. We have about 2 million immigrated Chinese in Canada and they have no problem telling us what it's really like. Further each one of you spooks/spies has consistently and obviously lied to us over and over again right here on this thread so, "no", it's YOU with the propaganda not us.

We're all laughing at you because you're the one ignorant of the world around you not us. It's YOUR country that decides what people can read and what they can't read, not ours. It's YOUR country that jails people for criticizing  the government not ours. It's your country that controls who can leave and experience the rest of the world not ours. Naturally it's a shock when you are faced with the truth and you refuse to believe it but that is irrelevant. There isn't one single article or detail brought forward that was untrue while you guys have been caught in lies over and over again.

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You are thinking highly of yourselves, but you are in your sleepy dreams.

No you are the one living in a state that is afraid to let you read. You are the one living in a state that hermetically seals it's people off from the truth. You are the one dreaming....and lying. Your pathetic State-sponsored propaganda forum is a joke. Not even a good try.


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« Reply #171 on: May 08, 2008, 09:58:11 AM »

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You gonna get flooded with Chinese propaganda. I think you really got the attention of the Commies.
Time for you guys to buy a new server

I think we're going to keep it to the one thread from here on it. 3 posters all from the same location is more than enough to tell us what's going on.



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« Reply #172 on: May 08, 2008, 10:13:07 AM »


Pls learn more foreign languages, especially Chinese.


You wish I'm gonna learn your babbling language ? For what purpose in life, other than reading communist propaganda?
It's you should learn languages, you are trying to attract world attention to your plagued poor people.

Besides I already know other languages of internationall use: french and a little german. You should try to get real, ppl.
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« Reply #173 on: May 08, 2008, 11:11:57 AM »

Akh, sorry for being rude but in your place i wouldn't be so hard on Chinese fellow because we all know what they do to unsuccessful propagandists.
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« Reply #174 on: May 08, 2008, 11:31:12 AM »

Akh, sorry for being rude but in your place i wouldn't be so hard on Chinese fellow because we all know what they do to unsuccessful propagandists.

What do they do to them? They scalp them?
Teach them a lesson, they shouldn't have learned English in the first place, should have sticked to Chinese only.
See what's happening if you try to be smart a bit? They whack you hard, put you back in place....well that's the definition of communism.
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« Reply #175 on: May 08, 2008, 03:50:40 PM »

I have scanned all sections in the political discussions - I seem to have missed the thread that condemns the Chinese suppression of the Tibetans culture, that denies their basic human rights and kills non-violent protesters.

If I've overlooked, please point me in the right direction.  If not, where is the righteous indignation of the right?  Hiding behind Olympic profits?

China has not suppress tibetan culture.  In fact if you look at the realism, ameirca has suppress the native america culture much much more.

China has build many hospital and schools.  Tibetns are often better off than other chinese.
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« Reply #176 on: May 08, 2008, 03:52:12 PM »

Well, someone had to start a thread to begin with, don't you think. So why not you?

IAP supports FREE TIBET!


You support terror and massacres of innocent chinese citizens with that flag.

Shame on you.
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« Reply #177 on: May 08, 2008, 03:54:37 PM »

Berlin 1936 all over again?

OswaldTheOsprey

Nazis happened under democratic western white liberal country.  That could never happen under China.  China government protects its people as best as it can.  Other countries do not.

China is the best country in the world.
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« Reply #178 on: May 08, 2008, 03:57:28 PM »

Don't worry about it Abraxas. Dolphin's just on his high horse because he's one of the special ones allowed to post on internet forums. Probably all he had to do for the privilege is get sterilized. Considering the Chinese who have been sentenced to years in prison for saying what they think on international Internet forums, we can understand Dophin for the party puppet he is by proxy of his presence. It's obvious he's going to tow any line handed to him. His mind is not his own, it belongs to the "People".
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This s garbage.  Chinese can surf the net andm, post freely about subject we like. 

Stop believe the zion media.
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« Reply #179 on: May 08, 2008, 03:59:55 PM »

You wish I'm gonna learn your babbling language ? For what purpose in life, other than reading communist propaganda?
It's you should learn languages, you are trying to attract world attention to your plagued poor people.

Besides I already know other languages of internationall use: french and a little german. You should try to get real, ppl.

Chinese will soon to be of far more use than dead languages like french or german.  Soon chinese iwll be world language.
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