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« Reply #345 on: May 19, 2008, 12:57:07 AM » |
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Only the Polish, German, UK and Czech Republic leaders say they wont come. U.K premier Gordon browns says he will attend the closing ceremony though. So when did these four become "Most European" leaders ? In case you haven't noticed, there are 27 members of the EU - which of the others say they won't come ? Confused... Well, in fact it is Europe that presses China on this issue, not US. Almost all European leaders announced one by one they will not attend opening ceremony. That's probably why Chinese boycotting French businesses. And in contrast G.Bush will attend opening ceremony. This is for the first time in history of US. They never attending Olympic ceremonies beyond US.
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« Reply #346 on: May 19, 2008, 07:15:02 AM » |
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No country recognizes or has recognized Tibet as a formally sovereign state.
You are clearly lying or ignorant if you claim otherwise.
Owned again lol ...
Clearly you are arguing with the voices in your head and not me. You should argue what i say instead of what you wished I siad. No one with your inability to read properly ever "owned " anyone, and you'd have to own once before you can 'own" again. That's what "again" means. As much as you try and pose yourself as educated you're clearly not. lol. Only a juvenile who's used to feeling stupid use the word "owned". Ahk |
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« Reply #347 on: May 19, 2008, 07:49:37 AM » |
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No country recognizes or has recognized Tibet as a formally sovereign state.
You are clearly lying or ignorant if you claim otherwise.
Owned again lol ...
Clearly you are arguing with the voices in your head and not me. You should argue what i say instead of what you wished I siad. And what was the point of your deranged drivel about the japanese if it was not to "prove" that Tibet had once been independent ? |
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« Reply #348 on: May 19, 2008, 08:00:43 AM » |
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<shrugs>
You're asking me to explain your assumptions?
The best thing for you to do is just take a breath and slow down.
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« Reply #349 on: May 19, 2008, 08:12:08 AM » |
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<shrugs>
You're asking me to explain your assumptions?
The best thing for you to do is just take a breath and slow down.
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It seems my memory is better than yours - in post 336 you wrote: No you need to start educating yourself as to what happened during this time. Japan ruled over much China and Tibet from 1931-1945, after the war it was HANDED to China by Japanese dissolvement and Tibet won it's independence 4 years later in 1949. In all throughout the last century Tibet was "ruled" by mainland China for a total of 4 years during which they never cared about them.What was your point with that ? - Was there one ? |
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« Reply #350 on: May 19, 2008, 08:40:09 AM » |
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I explained that earlier. China's influence in Tibet was tenuous and basically null from shortly after it's military "expedition" at the start of the century until they receded after the start of wwII and a reformation of the Chinese army (the nature of which I don't remember). So Tibet escapes the first time because of war and stayed under the radar until WWII -- naturally China was a little too preoccupied to send another 'expedition' to lay claim on Tibet until after japan was defeated. I was wrong about Japan occupying parts of Tibet apparently, but whatever Im working on memory of an actual education, unlike you who's working off of talking points you dont understand yourself (like the North american natives). So Tibet was independent as it was before the war until China sent it's next and last 'expedition' in 1950/51. Japans dissolvement made that possible.
...and how does this prove Tibet is "naturally, inherently" part of China?
Why show us a map of Tibet in China after each time China occupies Tibet? Like why give us a map after 1912 right after they walk in? More 'truth'?
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« Reply #351 on: May 19, 2008, 09:01:35 AM » |
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Excellent - now we are getting somewhere. It seems that you claim Tibet was once a sovereign state.
During what period in time was that you say ? An accuracy of +/- 10 years is OK, since I don't want to force you to go back to your books from your "education".
Correct me if I am wrong, but If I read your post correctly you claim it was between 1912 and around 1945 ? What was the status of Tibet before that ?
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« Reply #352 on: May 19, 2008, 05:41:46 PM » |
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Cune, ...Europe....or whatever is you next name,
I don't understand why you keep repeating for yourself that Tibet is an integral part of China? Is not, neither they (Tibet people) want to be. They are a different people, different language, culture, religion and they are oppressed by the Chinese government since they invaded them a few decades ago. These are well documented historical facts, not by CNN, as you always like to point, and I am not a racist neither.
Yes, Chinese government built infrastructure in Tibet (railroads and the like) because they want Chinese migrants/workers to move to Tibet to take over the new land. That is called ethnic cleansing and No, you cannot do it anymore in the 21st century....so don't start bitching to me about the north-american natives story. That was then, now you cannot do this shit anymore in today's electronical communications age.
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« Reply #353 on: May 19, 2008, 08:14:35 PM » |
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So is it ethnic cleansing against Scottish people when English people move to Scotland?
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« Reply #354 on: May 20, 2008, 12:40:45 AM » |
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ROFL, are you the next one in line to show you "deep insights" about Tibet and China. Ahknaten stories about Japanese invasion were quite good, maybe you can come up with an even better one ... It would help if you could actually find Tibet on a map dumbass ... That you take the junk you write below as "facts" without even trying to substantiate them, just proves that your are brainwashed. I'll tell you the same as I told Ahknaten - It worked form him. Go back to school - do your homework, and maybe come out as a thinking indvidual in the end. Good luck, and peace man ... Cune, ...Europe....or whatever is you next name,
I don't understand why you keep repeating for yourself that Tibet is an integral part of China? Is not, neither they (Tibet people) want to be. They are a different people, different language, culture, religion and they are oppressed by the Chinese government since they invaded them a few decades ago. These are well documented historical facts, not by CNN, as you always like to point, and I am not a racist neither.
Yes, Chinese government built infrastructure in Tibet (railroads and the like) because they want Chinese migrants/workers to move to Tibet to take over the new land. That is called ethnic cleansing and No, you cannot do it anymore in the 21st century....so don't start bitching to me about the north-american natives story. That was then, now you cannot do this shit anymore in today's electronical communications age.
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« Reply #355 on: May 20, 2008, 07:40:18 AM » |
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I'll tell you the same as I told Ahknaten - It worked form him. Go back to school - do your homework, and maybe come out as a thinking indvidual in the end.
The same school that taught you the Tibetain occupation by the Chinese is the same as the occupation of North America by Euro colonists? Ahk |
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« Reply #356 on: May 20, 2008, 07:48:23 AM » |
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I'll tell you the same as I told Ahknaten - It worked form him. Go back to school - do your homework, and maybe come out as a thinking indvidual in the end.
The same school that taught you the Tibetain occupation by the Chinese is the same as the occupation of North America by Euro colonists? Ahk You still haven't managed to provide convincing arguments that Tibet is actually occupied ... |
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« Reply #357 on: May 20, 2008, 07:51:05 AM » |
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...so you can't decide whether or not it's occupied but it's exactly like the Euro "occupation of North America" which makes it "ok" unless you're talking about the former, whihc would make it bad but it's not an occupation so...
You haven't managed to provide anything at all convincing. Oh wait: you showed us a map with no context.
I can show you a map where it calls Antarctica "little America"...is that "proofs"? I can show you another with this weird little country called "Biafra". Or I could show you another that has Afghanistan as part of the Soviet Union (whoever they are).
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« Reply #358 on: May 20, 2008, 07:53:37 AM » |
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...so you can't decide whether or not it's occupied but it's exactly like the Euro "occupation of North America" which makes it "ok" unless you're talking about the former.
I know the Chinese has not occupied Tibet. If you have evidence to suggest otherwise, present them ... |
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« Reply #359 on: May 20, 2008, 07:56:36 AM » |
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I know the Chinese has not occupied Tibet. Sure, their military rolling in there in 1950/51 would be one. If the Chinese have not occupied Tibet...if they aren't "raping" their culture then why did you compare it to the North American natives and the colonists and tell us to shut up? You made the comparrison...because there is no comparrison? Obviously you felt there was a simularity. Ahk |
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