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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 12:39:43 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. hate whitey!! |
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 01:11:26 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. To do? He inspires, period. The Bush Administration has been the most negative presidency in living memory. He can tell you what to fear, but not what to hope for, what we can't do not what we can. It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. We CAN do better. We CAN do things different. There is a better way. It makes me remember when this was an optimistic country, not a collection of taxbitches, sneering cynics and politicians sowing discord to get elected. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 01:22:28 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. To do? He inspires, period. The Bush Administration has been the most negative presidency in living memory. He can tell you what to fear, but not what to hope for, what we can't do not what we can. It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. We CAN do better. We CAN do things different. There is a better way. It makes me remember when this was an optimistic country, not a collection of taxbitches, sneering cynics and politicians sowing discord to get elected. I support Obama strongly and will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. That said, what appeals to me is not the pollyannaish rhetoric that has you all atwitter but the fact he will bring the troops home and mind our own business. He is, IMHO, a decent and civilized person but not a messiah that some seem to think. Rather than viewing him as another Reagan or JFK, I view him as in the mold of Warren G. Harding (no not for Teapot Dome!) who calmed the nation down after Wilson's idiotic war to spread democracy. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I feel. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 01:35:01 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. To do? He inspires, period. The Bush Administration has been the most negative presidency in living memory. He can tell you what to fear, but not what to hope for, what we can't do not what we can. It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. We CAN do better. We CAN do things different. There is a better way. It makes me remember when this was an optimistic country, not a collection of taxbitches, sneering cynics and politicians sowing discord to get elected. I support Obama strongly and will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. That said, what appeals to me is not the pollyannaish rhetoric that has you all atwitter but the fact he will bring the troops home and mind our own business. He is, IMHO, a decent and civilized person but not a messiah that some seem to think. Rather than viewing him as another Reagan or JFK, I view him as in the mold of Warren G. Harding (no not for Teapot Dome!) who calmed the nation down after Wilson's idiotic war to spread democracy. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I feel. OswaldTheOsprey Gee, golly, whiz I wish I was as smart as you to not be so pollyannaish and think he is the Messiah. Maybe you can teach me about the issues so's I can be all smart like you. DUH! We're talking inspiration, here, not issues. I love that you can't be optimistic anymore without some knee-jerk sneering about pollyanna from another bunched-up angry American, who just likes to be negative because it make him feel smarter than others. WWI was not Wilson's war, he just ended it. If people like you had their way, it would have gone on for another two years. When people like you did have their way and refused to ratify the treaty of Versailles, you insured a second war. Thanx. |
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 01:40:04 PM » |
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A Bush administration player running for McCain's vice-president? That'll be real bad for McCain, especially since people are all ready shouting that voting for McCain is just voting for a third term of Bush. Also keep in mind that Rice was a former board member of Chevron and has dozens of unethical scandals behind her and that makes her hugely contraversial. She's a crook just like the rest of Bush's team, which will only be bad for McCain.
I agree with this opinion. My impression, from Europe, is that Rice running for vice-president is giving people two clear different options: one representing change, dems; and the other representing no change at all, reps. I guess that Rice has a strong link with Bush's terms that will be very difficult to make forget. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2008, 01:46:26 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. To do? He inspires, period. The Bush Administration has been the most negative presidency in living memory. He can tell you what to fear, but not what to hope for, what we can't do not what we can. It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. We CAN do better. We CAN do things different. There is a better way. It makes me remember when this was an optimistic country, not a collection of taxbitches, sneering cynics and politicians sowing discord to get elected. I support Obama strongly and will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. That said, what appeals to me is not the pollyannaish rhetoric that has you all atwitter but the fact he will bring the troops home and mind our own business. He is, IMHO, a decent and civilized person but not a messiah that some seem to think. Rather than viewing him as another Reagan or JFK, I view him as in the mold of Warren G. Harding (no not for Teapot Dome!) who calmed the nation down after Wilson's idiotic war to spread democracy. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I feel. OswaldTheOsprey Gee, golly, whiz I wish I was as smart as you to not be so pollyannaish and think he is the Messiah. Maybe you can teach me about the issues so's I can be all smart like you. DUH! We're talking inspiration, here, not issues. I love that you can't be optimistic anymore without some knee-jerk sneering about pollyanna from another bunched-up angry American, who just likes to be negative because it make him feel smarter than others. WWI was not Wilson's war, he just ended it. If people like you had their way, it would have gone on for another two years. When people like you did have their way and refused to ratify the treaty of Versailles, you insured a second war. Thanx. The Second World War was insured by our entry into the conflict in 1917. We entered the conflict to backup J.P. Morgan's loans to the allies covered up by Wilson's hypocritical drivel about the 14 Points and Making The World Safe For Democracy. Germany surrendered based on the 14 Points but the allies at Versailles (talk about cynics) quickly ditched it for a vengeful and viscious treaty. Don't blame people like me for Wilson's Folly. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2008, 02:01:02 PM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. To do? He inspires, period. The Bush Administration has been the most negative presidency in living memory. He can tell you what to fear, but not what to hope for, what we can't do not what we can. It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. We CAN do better. We CAN do things different. There is a better way. It makes me remember when this was an optimistic country, not a collection of taxbitches, sneering cynics and politicians sowing discord to get elected. I support Obama strongly and will vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. That said, what appeals to me is not the pollyannaish rhetoric that has you all atwitter but the fact he will bring the troops home and mind our own business. He is, IMHO, a decent and civilized person but not a messiah that some seem to think. Rather than viewing him as another Reagan or JFK, I view him as in the mold of Warren G. Harding (no not for Teapot Dome!) who calmed the nation down after Wilson's idiotic war to spread democracy. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I feel. OswaldTheOsprey Gee, golly, whiz I wish I was as smart as you to not be so pollyannaish and think he is the Messiah. Maybe you can teach me about the issues so's I can be all smart like you. DUH! We're talking inspiration, here, not issues. I love that you can't be optimistic anymore without some knee-jerk sneering about pollyanna from another bunched-up angry American, who just likes to be negative because it make him feel smarter than others. WWI was not Wilson's war, he just ended it. If people like you had their way, it would have gone on for another two years. When people like you did have their way and refused to ratify the treaty of Versailles, you insured a second war. Thanx. The Second World War was insured by our entry into the conflict in 1917. We entered the conflict to backup J.P. Morgan's loans to the allies covered up by Wilson's hypocritical drivel about the 14 Points and Making The World Safe For Democracy. Germany surrendered based on the 14 Points but the allies at Versailles (talk about cynics) quickly ditched it for a vengeful and viscious treaty. Don't blame people like me for Wilson's Folly. OswaldTheOsprey Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay... Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't. |
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2008, 02:17:33 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX |
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2008, 02:18:49 PM » |
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Irwin: Despite your stern edict, I am going to dare and debate it. Admire Meester Veelson if you like. Barnum said there was one born every minute. OswaldTheOsprey http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/CN/cn09-64.txt |
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2008, 02:19:32 PM » |
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It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. You NEED a politician to stand there and say 'YES WE CAN'? You NEED that? You've got to be kidding me. 'YES WE CAN' what? That is the million dollar question. You are hanging your hat on platitudes? |
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2008, 02:36:48 PM » |
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It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. You NEED a politician to stand there and say 'YES WE CAN'? You NEED that? You've got to be kidding me. 'YES WE CAN' what? That is the million dollar question. You are hanging your hat on platitudes? Me, I prefer, YOU BETTER NOT!!!  But when he says "Yes We Can!!!" I hear "yes we can;" 1. Have a one world government. 2. Do away with the BILL OF RIGHTS. 3. BAN YOUR GUNS!!!! 4. Merge the US with Mexico and Canada. 5. Make a new currency. 6. Force you to take vaccines we know for a fact cause heath problems. 7. Expand the war in the middle east. 8. Expand the War on Terror. (the American people) 9. Spy on Americans 10. Torture 11. Make the US even more sub-ordinate to foreign courts. 12. Make the US even more sub-ordinate to foreign rules, restrictions, and LAWS!!! 13. Give away more land and more infrastructure to foreign entities. 14. Burn more food as fuel. 15. Increase manufacturing costs to avoid problems that don't exist. 16. Print more money to dilute the current currencies value. 17. Create more debt for our children. 18. Create higher prices at the pumps. "Yes we can," he says. I say, "we better not." FreeinTX |
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2008, 08:06:35 AM » |
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Look, sorry, I don't rewrite history because of a rant on the net. Osama bin Laden ordered the attack on 9/11, Oswald killed Kennedy, and American involvement in In the First World War...oh, why bother... CONSPIRACIES ARE BULLSHIT. |
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2008, 08:21:46 AM » |
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It is as simple as YES WE CAN. Is Hilary, McCain, or anyone else saying that? I've been waiting to hear it for years. You NEED a politician to stand there and say 'YES WE CAN'? You NEED that? You've got to be kidding me. 'YES WE CAN' what? That is the million dollar question. You are hanging your hat on platitudes? I shouldn't be surprised at this dunderheaded response from you. You asked why he inspires. I told you why. You then attack me for being inspired. Listen, dummy, that's the President's job. You may preffer Bush and "be afraid, no we can't." I preffer an optimism. After all, you sure as hell can't DO anything unless you first believe you can. YES WE CAN have healthcare, end the war in Iraq, confront the real terror threat...oh, you are a waste of time. Go wallow in your stupidity. |
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2008, 08:31:37 AM » |
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You asked why he inspires. I told you why. I did ask. Your reply was that you were inspired by 'YES WE CAN.' No one knows what that means. How could that possibly inspire you? Let me tell you by what I'm inspired...by the idea of being without shelter and hungry. That is what inspires me to get out of bed Monday morning. Not words. Not a politician. You then attack me for being inspired. I was just surprised that an adult would find inspiration in empty rhetoric. I'm sorry if I came across in attack mode. Listen, dummy, that's the President's job. I disagree. A person needs to look elsewhere for inspiration (see my above example.) You may preffer Bush and "be afraid, no we can't." Bush will not endorse the 'stick your head in the sand, everything is OK' approach...I'll give you that. He doesn't make me 'afraid', either, though. YES WE CAN have healthcare, end the war in Iraq, confront the real terror threat...oh, you are a waste of time. Go wallow in your stupidity. WHO is the 'real' threat on terror? Has Obama said? Can he give an inspiring speech on who he'll go after? He's already said he'd go back into Iraq if terrorists set up camp there. The military had better not unpack once back... |
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2008, 08:43:06 AM » |
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Obama is in it because he inspires people. What does Obama inspire someone to do? Just curious. hate whitey!! Well bonzonite ...there you go again ... maybe you and your buddies should organize a lynching party! |
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