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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2008, 10:00:12 AM » |
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LOL. Are you kidding me? JFK was in the position he was in because of his father. Did Barrack have a sitting Senator father? NO!!
Dude, stop watching FAUX Snews (MediaCorp), CNN (Time Warner), MSNBC (General Electric) and the others This is why nobody listens to you. I said people look at Obama like they did JFK, and then you start talking about his father? I'm saying people respond to the two the same way. Then the old cliched, "stop watching the MSM" bullshit, like that had anything to do with what I was saying. This is why people still watch those channels, because when they hear blowhards like you say bad things about them, people just tend to think you're wrong. |
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2008, 10:49:31 AM » |
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Look, sorry, I don't rewrite history because of a rant on the net. Osama bin Laden ordered the attack on 9/11, Oswald killed Kennedy, and American involvement in In the First World War...oh, why bother... CONSPIRACIES ARE BULLSHIT. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2008, 11:21:15 AM » |
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Look, sorry, I don't rewrite history because of a rant on the net. Osama bin Laden ordered the attack on 9/11, Oswald killed Kennedy, and American involvement in In the First World War...oh, why bother... CONSPIRACIES ARE BULLSHIT. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. OswaldTheOsprey Right, YOUR conspiracy is right, everyone else's is wrong. Conspiracies are secular religion. Believers use the same techniques to defend them, dubious, arcane "evidence," freeform connections between unrelated facts, "reliable" witnesses, fake inconsistencies, outright lies and a good deal of righteous shouting. They love obscure websites, with raving authors who only accept information that backs their idea up, even if those pieces of information are contradictory. Their faith will not be shaken by any rational argument. Conspiracies are favored by those wish to see the world as making sense, just like religion, they make things simple and make you feel like you have insider knowledge. Anyone disagrees, they are blind and you see the truth. Meanwhile, in the real world the idea of an isolated America ignoring the world was proven a disaster when folks like you won the day after WWI. |
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2008, 11:47:44 AM » |
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Well, Irwin, here is what I think about World War I (and every other war for that matter). The artist is Albert Hahn (1877-1918) a courageous Dutch artist who also drew the cartoon that is my avatar. OswaldTheOsprey  |
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2008, 07:54:48 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX Ashton Kutcher? |
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2008, 09:49:27 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX Ashton Kutcher? Quality stuff. |
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2008, 12:08:32 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX Ashton Kutcher? Quality stuff. I do what I can.  |
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« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2008, 05:00:08 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX Ashton Kutcher? How about Prescott Bush, HW's daddy, GW's grand-daddy? And for my abscure source, I choose, hmm, the BBC!!! That's the British Broadcasting Channel! Abscure enough? BBC: Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America http://digg.com/politics/BBC_Bush_s_Grandfather_Planned_Fascist_Coup_In_Americaand here's the ACTUAL audio clip from BBC-4; http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/240707_bbc_prescott_coup.mp3Now, did you hear Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler, in 1933 say that he was approached by a wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers, including Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him to command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help stage a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Is a MARINE CORPS major-general's testimony before Congress still too abscure? This HERO's testimony? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butlerhow about this? In 1936, William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany, wrote a letter to President Roosevelt in which he stated, A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions. Is a US Ambassasor to Germany writing to the President about a group of RADICALS in America too abscure? This ambassador's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dodd_(ambassador) Well then, let's check over at the UK Guadian; http://www.guardian.co.uk/How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwarGeorge Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism. Still too abscure? Well then I'm sorry, Bill O'LIEly won't talk about the issue. Lush Bimbo won't allow my calls past the screener. They all seem too busy talking about "important" things like race, religion, and gender. You know, the things that really bring a country together. But if you continue to wait around for the MSM to tell you that Barrack O'bama, and his wife, HITLERY Clinton, and her wife, and John McCain, but NOT his wife, are ALL a part of the exact same group that make all the decisions regarding the course of our country, and that they use Diebold machines and corrupt politicians to cheat the American people, then you are going to be waiting until they come and chain you up, which may actually be in the next 5 to 10 years if we don't do something soon. Some have said next 2-5 years. Some people don't even think we are going to get to the elections on time. But I'm sure they are all crazy. FreeinTX |
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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2008, 05:07:21 PM » |
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Yeah, okay, sure. The whole thing was about loans. M'kay...
Europeans were killing each other. We came in and stopped it. People like you insured that a broken Europe would not have the stability of American involvement. Rather than America, we had Hitler fill the power vacuum. Nicely done. Did ya notice how you guys were ignored the second time around and there has never been a war in Europe since. Well, if you haven't, pretty much everyone else has. There is no debate about this, except among those who think opening their mouths is enough of a reason for debate. It isn't.
Uhh huh, and just who, exactly, gave the NAZI party, and Hitler the fundind he needed to carry out WW2? Who loaned him all that money? Who financed WW2 and the Holocaust? Just who was that, EXACTLY? FreeinTX Ashton Kutcher? How about Prescott Bush, HW's daddy, GW's grand-daddy? And for my abscure source, I choose, hmm, the BBC!!! That's the British Broadcasting Channel! Abscure enough? BBC: Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America http://digg.com/politics/BBC_Bush_s_Grandfather_Planned_Fascist_Coup_In_Americaand here's the ACTUAL audio clip from BBC-4; http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/240707_bbc_prescott_coup.mp3Now, did you hear Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler, in 1933 say that he was approached by a wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers, including Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him to command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help stage a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Is a MARINE CORPS major-general's testimony before Congress still too abscure? This HERO's testimony? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butlerhow about this? In 1936, William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany, wrote a letter to President Roosevelt in which he stated, A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions. Is a US Ambassasor to Germany writing to the President about a group of RADICALS in America too abscure? This ambassador's? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dodd_(ambassador) Well then, let's check over at the UK Guadian; http://www.guardian.co.uk/How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwarGeorge Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism. Still too abscure? Well then I'm sorry, Bill O'LIEly won't talk about the issue. Lush Bimbo won't allow my calls past the screener. They all seem too busy talking about "important" things like race, religion, and gender. You know, the things that really bring a country together. But if you continue to wait around for the MSM to tell you that Barrack O'bama, and his wife, HITLERY Clinton, and her wife, and John McCain, but NOT his wife, are ALL a part of the exact same group that make all the decisions regarding the course of our country, and that they use Diebold machines and corrupt politicians to cheat the American people, then you are going to be waiting until they come and chain you up, which may actually be in the next 5 to 10 years if we don't do something soon. Some have said next 2-5 years. Some people don't even think we are going to get to the elections on time. But I'm sure they are all crazy. FreeinTX Gosh, I didn't know you were talking about Prescott Bush. I REEELY NEEEVER heard of him before you. Golly gee whiz, are you sure it wasn't Asheton Kutcher? |
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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2008, 11:22:44 AM » |
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I used to think Rice might be alright... but I recently lost ALL respect for the woman:
"I thought it would be tought, but I didn't think it would be this tough."
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She's either lying (which is bad) or she's really that stupid (which is worse).
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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2008, 03:38:27 PM » |
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If anything, the GOP is forcing Rice into it as a counter balance to Obama and Hillary... and if they ally at some point in the future.
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« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2008, 03:40:53 PM » |
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If anything, the GOP is forcing Rice into it as a counter balance to Obama and Hillary... and if they ally at some point in the future.
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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2008, 06:37:43 AM » |
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Rice would pretty much ensure a victory for the Dems.
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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2008, 08:19:28 AM » |
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I'd have to agree. She doesn't seem to be likable in the least, and anything associated with the Bush years is going to have the independents and democrats move away from McCain. From McCain's perspective though she could possible get the neocon vote, and pull some of the female and African-American vote.
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