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chimera
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« on: February 15, 2008, 12:11:01 AM »

Hi from newbie,
Macro-History is also a newbie, and looks at the long story across divisions of geography and time. This is heresy to most, and there is fury at the idea that Persia or Ireland could have influenced Rome, or that IndoEuropean culture of Vedic Brahmins could diffuse to Europe. Rome was Rome, religion is religion and lines on maps kept India away from hairy beer-drinkers. But I beg to differ. How about you?
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 03:37:36 AM »

Transfusion of ideas, throughout history, between seemingly unrelated places and cultures is something that, although seems unlikely, is quiet a real phenomena. For example much has been transmitted from China and India to Europe through Muslim Spain (Andulus). Although no Chinese or Indian probably ever travelled the vast geographic distance from where they lived their ideas, their products and elements of their cultures somehow found their way across.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 12:52:18 PM »

And Phoenicians traded with east Spain from around 1400 BCE and possibly went to Britain for tin . Chinese silk was evidently used in Persia by 4th cent. BCE, after Iranian tribes were pushed west from China. Scythians were spread across south Russia and reached Poland and Hungary in that time period. European rivers and Russian steppes were like roadways between Atlantic and China where ideas could traverse, if individuals could not.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 08:12:35 AM »

Transfusion of ideas, throughout history, between seemingly unrelated places and cultures is something that, although seems unlikely, is quiet a real phenomena. For example much has been transmitted from China and India to Europe through Muslim Spain (Andulus). Although no Chinese or Indian probably ever travelled the vast geographic distance from where they lived their ideas, their products and elements of their cultures somehow found their way across.
The route of 'transfusion' from China and India through to Europe was primarily through the Silk Road.

Muslim Spain was actually more signficant as a conduit for classical Greek thought to re-enter Europe.

These are not mutually exclusive categories, merely generalities though.

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 08:15:24 AM »

And Phoenicians traded with east Spain from around 1400 BCE and possibly went to Britain for tin . Chinese silk was evidently used in Persia by 4th cent. BCE, after Iranian tribes were pushed west from China. Scythians were spread across south Russia and reached Poland and Hungary in that time period. European rivers and Russian steppes were like roadways between Atlantic and China where ideas could traverse, if individuals could not.
Phoenician pottery and coinage have been found in Devon/Cornwall, dating back to the 1200-1500 BC, proving the Pheonicia-Cornwall trade link.


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