I am a college student in Shanghai,and i want to let you know chinese feel on Tibet issue.
First,i want to let you know the western media are big liars.They said Chinese government use violent to repress the Tibetan.But actually we didn't!We are so angry about this.On chinese website we always say we actually know the western countries,they don't wanna see a strong China.There are many evidence on anti-cnn.com.
Second,western media say Dalai lama is a kind person,they say chairman mao aggress Tibet.I just wanna say they actually know nothing about chinese history.Tibet is a part of China hundred years!We liberate Tibet under the lead of chairman mao.Because at that time,many tibetan were slavers of Dalai lama.Do you know that?I am so
angry to know many westerns support to free Tibet.I wanna say you really don't know many things.Please listen our voice!
Third,i want to say maybe our government has many shortage.Then,you know,the CCP just comed into power 49years!49years ago,we are one of the most poor countries in the world,and now we are the top5 country.This is a great achievement!
Sorry for my poor English!But I really hope you can understand us.
This is my own opinion.Don't say any bad words to my country.Because it's relly hurt.

ZHR,  when you say western media are big liars, do you mean the communist regime brainwashed you into believing that? You should clean up your mouth, before you open it, buddy.

That's good.  We look forward to hearing your views on these issues.

Yes, we already know this.

But are you aware that your Chinese government is an even bigger liar?

Not saying one is better than the other.  Just pointing out something you ought to be aware of.

Yes, everyone knows that the Chinese government are gentle Buddhists.  They would never hurt a flea.

Those silly Tibetans are obviously rioting and protesting over nothing.

Chairman Mao's reputation in the western world is little better than Stalin.  Btw, if you are looking for sympathy for China from westerners, don't ever mention Mao.  Mao was a monster.

And Chinese lies about the Dali Lama aren't very convincing at all.

Most western people couldn't care less about Tibet.  It is only a fashionable cause for people who like fashionable causes.  There is zero actual political support for Tibet around the world.

We do care that China is engaging in some serious and large-scale human rights violations though.  China will be tolerated by the west, but China will never have any western friends so long as China does not respect human rights.

No sympathy for Communists or Maoists.  Never.

Your English is quite understandable. 

But if you can't take criticism of China, you best not go around spouting official PRC propaganda on western websites.

FALSE!

about Mao that is. He was a great boon for China and created a great boost in the post-war Chinese society until the Hundred Flowers movement. The shattered Chinese economy grew at 18.7% in industrial sectors and 3.8% for agriculture. However he, like all dictators, grew so concerned about his power that he forgot about the people. This is not to say that the GMD couldn't have done the same


As far as Tibet goes... Tibet hasn't been independant as a nation, theocracy or kingdom for about 1000 years. With one de facto exception between the two world wars, where China was essentially a mish-mash of tribal lords fighting each other and the Japanese occupation.



Still, the politically violent oppression of Tibet is not an acceptable norm. It's not acceptable because the U.S. isn't doin it

It's fair to point out that after the second world war growth was happening everywhere, if only to repair the destruction.

It is difficult to determine whether it was Mao and the "system" specifically  or whether it was just the change overall from an inept dynasty. He could very well have been a democrat and this change could still have taken place.

Statistics about growth mean less to me coming from a country with forced socialism because naturally if everyone was a robot things would improve anywhere. But people aren't robots.


If you say so. I can't quite recall the last time the US annexed a nation or shot protesters wholesale. Maybe you can. How about we turn this around? How about if it's okay for China to claim Tibet then is it okay for the US to claim Iraq? Mexico?


What's your point? Do you bring forth the same argument when speaking of the Palestinians? They've never been anything besides a city state. Rest of the time they belonged to one empire or another.


One should be wary of siding with a state or entity simply because they antagonize the US and you don';t like the US.



Ahk

i want to tell you i'm a freshman in college.I was in school so i reply you now!!!You think an propaganda officer will has a poor English as me??But i don't care you'll believe me or not.
we have different opinions,so we can discuss each other.But I won't say any words with aggressive to you,I hope you would too.

Alright you there are propagenda officers checking people on the internet.. well atleast that's cleared up.

First off you have the right to have your own opinion on this matter.

Your argument is really similar to what we in Europe (Or the Netherlands) call "But Hitler also build highways". Meaning that a Tyrant which has possibly contributed to for example economic growth, he was responsible for the deaths of many of his own people. So in my opinion if a certain dictator has caused many death and griefs any  "good things"  don't cancel this out.

Yes there are situations where a Tyrant can bring stability, but viewing that deaths Mao caused he is one of the bigger mass murders in the world (Dito on Stalin and Hitler).

About sons of presidents attending wars, what does this matter in if he is good or not. The son(in law) of the Dutch Queen Wilhelmina also fought against the Germans in the second World War, this doesn't make up for the faults he made in his his later life.

Ontopic on Tibet, I' m not a pro free-tibet guy, or against a free Tibet. I hope only that the issue is resolved without to much violence. Honestly I hope China will start to talk with the Tibettian leaders (in a neutral setting without threat of persecution). I would just be as satisfied as more  autonomy for Tibet, while still beeing part of the PRC.

Zhr

The main mistake of Mao was not to have killed poeple (as Stalin said, at 20 millions, it's only a statistic), but to have been a communist.
And your former governements didn't fix this mistake after they sacked him. It fixed just the most terrible ones, but not the main one: communism.

Communism was realy stopped after Deng and after Hong Kong returned to China.
Today every chinese and their dog buy each others company stocks and things are a little bit better (at least you don't sink further down anymore).