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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2008, 05:28:19 PM » |
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Mao as leader of the War of Resistance against the Japanese? Aren't you forgetting Chaing Kai-Shek? Or does he no longer exist in Chinese history?
It wouldn't surprise me if Mao erased Chaing from the history books over there.
Likewise with Mao's "Great Leap Forward" - that didn't just slow Chinese development for 10 years - that destroyed 50 years of Chinese development - the damage from this insane Maoist policy China as still not fully recovered from.
As for the rest of your praise of Mao, I told you before that Chinese-Mao propaganda is of no interest to westerners. China is interesting and important, Mao is not. Mao was one of the worst monsters of the 20th century. When you speak reverently of Mao, people will just consider you a stooge of Chinese propaganda. As I noted above, you should avoid praising Mao if you want to be taken seriously by westerners.
You are entitled to your opinions and we are glad that you choose to share them with us, but I'm just explaining why you will have difficulty if you insist on praising Mao. Mao was an avowed enemy of the west and can never be seen as anything but an avowed enemy of all westerners.
We've been told different story since we were children.I think you won't change your mind and I won't change my mind on Chairman mao.My father told me last night,he said there are only two people sleeping in crystal coffin after they died,one is Lenin ,one is our Chairman mao.So you can know how great he is.My father also told me some history that I can't heard in class about Chairman mao.Something I think Chairman mao was wrong,but as my parents said he devoted his whole heart to China. OK,I won't say anymore to apperciate to our Chairman mao,and you please don't say anything to insult to him. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2008, 08:37:44 PM » |
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We hardly need to insult him, just telling what he did is insult enough.
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. . . sometimes it seems that one has to lean into the wind to stand straight.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 05:38:30 AM » |
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Comrade Zhr,
How can you have access to this Internet communication link with the western world, if you are not one of those old style, propaganda officers? What's you explaining for that?
You cannot brainwash me, brother.
And Mao, like Stalin, Kim yr Sen, Kim Jong, Hitler are all a bunch of mother-fuckers.
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zhr
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 06:20:07 AM » |
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Comrade Zhr,
How can you have access to this Internet communication link with the western world, if you are not one of those old style, propaganda officers? What's you explaining for that?
You cannot brainwash me, brother.
And Mao, like Stalin, Kim yr Sen, Kim Jong, Hitler are all a bunch of mother-fuckers.
I wanna brainwash you????I just tell you my opinion???This is brainwash???You are here to say China is not good,Chinese government is not good, as a Chinese I can't say a word??I've said this is my own opinion,if you don't agree,we can discuss each other,But if you don't wanna discuss with me,you needn't reply this thread! You can express your opinion,and I can't express my opinion????So this is your democracy in your country???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 06:42:37 AM » |
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And "Dear" Cauboi,You've said mother-fuckers???!!!How can you spoke out such dirty word???  You have no qulification to insult the people you talked about!!!Maybe you don't like them or even hate them.But they are great people for some people!!We have no qulification to insult anyone!!!Please respece yourself and repest others!!! I really don't care you mind,you know???!!!You mind can represent the truth???You minds are all right??? You think I'm a propaganda officers???Keep this mind, I don't care, MR CAUBOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2008, 07:20:53 AM » |
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You are here to say China is not good No killing Tibetians is "not good". |
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2008, 07:53:47 AM » |
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Both of us can't say,the things we knew are the truth.Both of our governments probably lied.But we should look the problem in a different ways.Stand as a Chinese view to look these problems,of course,we have different culture so we have different way of thinking. My foreign teacher told me a lot of westerners still don't know China very much now.So please ask yourself with heart how many things you know about China??And are you sure all of the things are the truth?? I'll try think about it in your western ways!!! Some of words here are very sharp,sometimes it's really made me angry.Can't we talk in a peace way?  ? |
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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2008, 08:57:59 AM » |
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I'll try think about it in your western ways!!!
Some of words here are very sharp,sometimes it's really made me angry.Can't we talk in a peace way? You can start by understanding that we will call leaders of any country including our own any number of vicious names. In general we do not worship our former leaders as some governments try to do...Kin Jong for example, Mao is another example. Bush could be thought of as another. There are many who believe he can do no wrong. I promise it would not take much searching to find an internet forum where Bush, Blair or even the Queen are referred to as "mother fucker" or even worse. You really shouldn't take that as a personal insult. Ahk |
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2008, 09:42:24 AM » |
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I wanna brainwash you????I just tell you my opinion???This is brainwash???You are here to say China is not good,Chinese government is not good, as a Chinese I can't say a word??I've said this is my own opinion,if you don't agree,we can discuss each other,But if you don't wanna discuss with me,you needn't reply this thread!
You can express your opinion,and I can't express my opinion????So this is your democracy in your country???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I finally got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all due respect, you are the one that came here spouting insults on America and heavenly praise for Mao. People here are reacting to those comments. No one here was spouting hatred towards China or Mao until you invited it. |
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2008, 09:42:29 AM » |
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Zhr,
You take a better look of what I said.
I never said "China not good" or "Chinese people not good"
As I am living in a free world, I am entitled, I have a right to say whatever I feel like about my leaders, without being shot. Can you do that?
Moreover, people in western societies feel that they have the duty to speak out their minds into political matters, otherwise we end up in a dictatorship form of government, like the Chinese one right now.
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2008, 12:40:53 PM » |
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Comrade Zhr,
How can you have access to this Internet communication link with the western world, if you are not one of those old style, propaganda officers? What's you explaining for that?
You cannot brainwash me, brother.
And Mao, like Stalin, Kim yr Sen, Kim Jong, Hitler are all a bunch of mother-fuckers.
I wanna brainwash you????I just tell you my opinion???This is brainwash???You are here to say China is not good,Chinese government is not good, as a Chinese I can't say a word??I've said this is my own opinion,if you don't agree,we can discuss each other,But if you don't wanna discuss with me,you needn't reply this thread! You can express your opinion,and I can't express my opinion????So this is your democracy in your country???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I were to judge the politics of your nation based on posters I've seen I'd note the odd, unnatural uniformity of opinion. How'd that happen? |
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. . . sometimes it seems that one has to lean into the wind to stand straight.
James Welch Winter in the Blood
Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution,no law, no court can even do much to save it.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2008, 03:01:09 PM » |
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I have no direct knowledge of China, but several of my family members have been there, including a six month stay and broad traveling. I have been lead to believe the conformity of opinion is not an illusion of controlled internet access.
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2008, 06:04:50 PM » |
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zhr
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2008, 06:20:01 PM » |
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Zhr,
You take a better look of what I said.
I never said "China not good" or "Chinese people not good"
As I am living in a free world, I am entitled, I have a right to say whatever I feel like about my leaders, without being shot. Can you do that?
Moreover, people in western societies feel that they have the duty to speak out their minds into political matters, otherwise we end up in a dictatorship form of government, like the Chinese one right now.
You never said China is not good or Chinese is not good.Yes!But look your reply,you mean it,don't you? ? You've said your country is free.In my opinion,If the government really wanna do something they will do it no matter what the people want!!!For example,the Iraq War!!!!!!!!!Americans don't wanna the Iraq War,but why the US Army still in Iraq? ? I'm here say something about our government and chairman mao maybe you don't wanna hear,but I think most Chinsese will have the same opinion with me. At first,I'm here ,just wanna let you know a true China and Chinese.Now I guess I was wrong at first time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and MR"mother fuckers"I just wanna tell you,you have freedom to say what you want to say,but you have the responsibility to you behavior and words!! |
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2008, 06:32:38 PM » |
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From all of your reply,I guess I was wrong,I shouldn't come here to post a thread like that.Frist,I wanna talk about Tibet,then you talk about chairman mao,when I say something about chairman mao,I become a people who just know praise him.
all right!
Sorry to waste your time to see my propaganda thread!!!!!!!!
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