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Author Topic: Iran and Cuba slam Canada on human rights.  (Read 1082 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2007, 09:37:05 AM »

No they really don't. For one thing they approve of it.

This is about one singular issue: The murder of a Canadian photo journalist and Canada's subsequent lobbying for sanctions based on those human right. They whip together some childish bullshit response and you guys fall for it. The worse thing we've ever done to Cuba is spend millions of tourist dollars down there ....even when our "imperial masters to the south" got all uppity about it.
Pathetic.
Ahk

There's no use in just denying some of the factual points they bring up. That would make us no better than the US liars. Our involvement in Afghanistan is illegal and immoral and is not being waged for the benefit of the people. It needs criticizing and all the spinoff from it which are human rights abuses need to be criticized too.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2007, 09:41:11 AM »

There is something seriously wrong with this thread. It got all mixed up.


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Here is my first post again for you to read:

Would you prefer they send a "jihadist" to blow himself up somewhere in Ottawa in retaliation?

They took a very peaceful approach. Maybe they believe what they are saying, probably they are just hypocrits.

So what else is new? Isn't it the same with everyone who builds a case in the UN?
Aren't they all a bunch of hypocritical liars with double standards?

Maybe what is bothersome is the discovery that they too know how to play this game of hypocrisy as well as the rest of them.


1- I never mentioned the US, Iraq, Afghanistan or Canada.
2- I never said they learned hypocrisy from the west.

There is no need for me to reply to your replies as they are all assuming something I never said. So what now, if I don't agree with Fred I am a terrorist and if I don't agree with what you say you just make baseless attacks?

But here is something I asked and never got a reply to: What do you think Iran should do, except them sitting in the corner like you want them to?
Or they should send someone to blow himself up as this would prove your case?

And I said they took a peaceful approach as opposed to a violent one, not as in "while Canada didn't"  Roll Eyes




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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2007, 09:45:25 AM »

I don't see why they stopped there.

They should have gotten China to weigh in on Canada's overpopulation problem, or maybe Niger to level a harsh criticism on the Canadian slave trade.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2007, 09:54:38 AM »

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There's no use in just denying some of the factual points they bring up.

What?
Ok I get it. You're a child. I'll continue with an adult if there's one available. As I said when you finally read this story come back and speak on it.

What 'factual points' do they bring up? Our routine strip search and seizures by police, or our terrible woman's rights record?

The more you bring up Afghanistan or Iraq the more foolish you all look since this has zero to do with it --- jeziz, even they aren't bringing it up. This is the SINGULAR ISSUE OF THE TORTURE AND EXECUTION OF A PHOTOJOURNALIST AND THE BLOW BACK THEY ARE RECEIVING FOR IT

Any discussion of Afghanistan or Iraq is completely moot in the opinion of either party here so that people on this forum continually bring it up proves in a way I couldn't every thing I've ever said about the delusional "ALL ROADS OF BLAME LEAD TO THE WEST".

Pathetic. Maybe if you guys could read you could come up with an adult's argument but I think I'll be waiting a long time for that.






Cedar I'm not going to carry on with you. Last time I did that I agreed with you more than I disagreed and you didn't listen you just rambled on about my arrogance. Then someone came in to tell me to stop 'picking on you' when with one sentence I simply pointed that out. This is one poster done engaging with you.


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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2007, 10:16:24 AM »

Cedar I'm not going to carry on with you. Last time I did that I agreed with you more than I disagreed and you didn't listen you just rambled on about my arrogance. Then someone came in to tell me to stop 'picking on you' when with one sentence I simply pointed that out. This is one poster done engaging with you.


Ahk

If you mean the arrogance thread, I did listen, and only replied to the parts you still disagreed with. And I added you to my last reply after you said you were not in total agreement with me.

Anyway, I guess I shouldn't try to show a different side to the story. Much easier to just agree with everyone.

So yes, Iranians are a bunch of hypocrites for using the same tactics every country in the world uses. They should just sit in the corner and watch Canada work and pass condemnation. They should then say Thank you Canada because you showed the world what bad boys we are, and we should be spanked really hard.

How dare they try to stand up for themselves? And try and do it through lobbying?

I'm done too

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2007, 10:38:56 AM »

Waaah, does it make you feel better reposting your post over and over?  I love the ad hominems you so desperately resort too.

So you decide to slam Iran and Cuba who've only adopted Washington's behaviour of judging others for the very same actions that they do. So you're right, they are "learning".
Yes Akh, "Do as I say, not as I do" defines perfectly the Bush administration and who is synonymous for their utter and blatant hypocrisy.  
So when I hear of the word 'hypocrite', I immediately think of BushII and all his pro-death pals.  

And speaking of the word 'child', one only needs to view your original post to gauge your level of cognition Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2007, 11:20:05 AM »

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Ok I get it. You're a child.

I usually don't correspond with those who stoop to personal insults and especially if they are administrators of the forum. It appears that from my short experience here that that is what this forum is about. Thanks anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2007, 11:37:29 AM »

Waaah, does it make you feel better reposting your post over and over?  I love the ad hominems you so desperately resort too.

So you decide to slam Iran and Cuba who've only adopted Washington's behaviour of judging others for the very same actions that they do. So you're right, they are "learning".
Yes Akh, "Do as I say, not as I do" defines perfectly the Bush administration and who is synonymous for their utter and blatant hypocrisy. 
So when I hear of the word 'hypocrite', I immediately think of BushII and all his pro-death pals. 

And speaking of the word 'child', one only needs to view your original post to gauge your level of cognition Smiley

Okay.

This is absurd.

Iran and Cuba have no room to slam Canada about human rights violations.

This doesn't have anything to do with Bush's hypocrisy, it's a result of Canada bringing pressure on Iran for torturing and killing someone.

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2007, 11:44:25 AM »

Waaah, does it make you feel better reposting your post over and over?  I love the ad hominems you so desperately resort too.

So you decide to slam Iran and Cuba who've only adopted Washington's behaviour of judging others for the very same actions that they do. So you're right, they are "learning".
Yes Akh, "Do as I say, not as I do" defines perfectly the Bush administration and who is synonymous for their utter and blatant hypocrisy. 
So when I hear of the word 'hypocrite', I immediately think of BushII and all his pro-death pals. 

And speaking of the word 'child', one only needs to view your original post to gauge your level of cognition Smiley

Okay.

This is absurd.

Iran and Cuba have no room to slam Canada about human rights violations.

This doesn't have anything to do with Bush's hypocrisy, it's a result of Canada bringing pressure on Iran for torturing and killing someone.



No, you're wrong and the reason you're wrong is because Canada's record needs to stand on it's own. It has nothing to do with the human rights records of other countries. Or more accurately, the human rights records of other countrie which propagandists would have us believe in order to demonize another country and thereby justify a war.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2007, 11:49:14 AM »

Multiple posts? If you could read you'd understand that's a glitch here....if you can read and know that already then this is just another strawman attempt to save face.

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I usually don't correspond with those who stoop to personal insults and especially if they are administrators of the forum.

Whaaa youreself. You made a fool of yourself and I have not used one "ad homen"....that is as weak as it gets. That you've made a fool of yourself is not me insulting you that's just you feeling stupid for not having the slightest clue what you were talking about. And yes, it does make me feel good to watch it unfold. Whatever. You're probably Moshe considering the way you come running in here just because I posted and ranting off topic crap.


These are the only relevant facts of this story AND this thread:

-The Iranian government illegally imprisoned, tortured and then executed a Canadian journalist....and an old woman at that.

-Canada has been pushing for sanctions because of these human rights abuses ever since.

-Now that time is approaching at the UN and Iran has come up with their own 'damning paper' on Canadian human rights. It cites no sources. I can not back up any of the claims. It mirrors our accusations completely by talking about how inhumane Canada treats their woman prisoners. THey have nothing to back that up either. They murdered a journalist and they're trying to find something, anything, to make us look equal to that.

-And finally the icing on the cake: a bunch of uneducated losers who can't differentiate anything going on in the world from their MoveOn.org - Iraq-everything regurgitations and their tiny little understanding of the world - come in and proudly claim as though they were "critical thinkers" that he's right! And then they start bringing up Afghanistan, Iraq or Bush as though any of that had anything to do with it.


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Yes Akh, "Do as I say, not as I do" defines perfectly the Bush administration and who is synonymous for their utter and blatant hypocrisy. 
So when I hear of the word 'hypocrite', I immediately think of BushII and all his pro-death pals. 


Blah blah blah blah. You are brainwashed. THat's all there is to it. When any of this has anything at all to do with Bush I'll inform you. It does stand on it's own. When we torture and murder an Iranian photojournalist then you just might begin to start making sense. Until then your, 'do as I do', sounds simply imbecilic. Sorry.

Unbelievable.





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If you mean the arrogance thread, I did listen, and only replied to the parts you still disagreed with. And I added you to my last reply after you said you were not in total agreement with me.

No actually you just stopped listening. I can't post a response to you without someone crying or coming to your defense to shield you from my 'savages and ravages', so lets just drop it, k? Nice knowing ya.


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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2007, 11:57:56 AM »

Waaah, does it make you feel better reposting your post over and over?  I love the ad hominems you so desperately resort too.

So you decide to slam Iran and Cuba who've only adopted Washington's behaviour of judging others for the very same actions that they do. So you're right, they are "learning".
Yes Akh, "Do as I say, not as I do" defines perfectly the Bush administration and who is synonymous for their utter and blatant hypocrisy. 
So when I hear of the word 'hypocrite', I immediately think of BushII and all his pro-death pals. 

And speaking of the word 'child', one only needs to view your original post to gauge your level of cognition Smiley

Okay.

This is absurd.

Iran and Cuba have no room to slam Canada about human rights violations.

This doesn't have anything to do with Bush's hypocrisy, it's a result of Canada bringing pressure on Iran for torturing and killing someone.



No, you're wrong and the reason you're wrong is because Canada's record needs to stand on it's own. It has nothing to do with the human rights records of other countries. Or more accurately, the human rights records of other countrie which propagandists would have us believe in order to demonize another country and thereby justify a war.


Routine unlawful strip and beatings by Canadian police has been a matter of concern for international community," notes the booklet, entitled Report on Human Rights Situation in Canada, adding that "the practice of police is alarming simply because ... it is functioning as if there is no need to have judges."

...

"To the great dismay of the international community, it is a great concern that the rights of women are violated, and no serious attention has been paid in promotion and protection of women's rights in Canada.""


You believe this to be factual?

Is this the "human rights record that needs to stand on it's own"?

Routine beatings. Yeah, I went to Toronto, and pretty much all I did was get beat by Canadian police for a whole week. I'm sure that if I would have been able to check out the city there wouldn't have been any women on the streets. You know how bad women have it in Canada.


Give me a break.










Where's dcoltonbrown at these days? He would love this thread.
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2007, 11:59:04 AM »

Thank you for your response Ahkenaten. Your post is noted and I have placed you at the top of one of my mental lists, along with prostitute.

Have a nice day!  
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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2007, 12:06:18 PM »

You too.

You come on back now when I make a thread about Cricket matches in India, ok? We would love to hear your musings of why Bush or Iraq have something to do with it.

Bye bye!
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