Yes I get angry when someone does't read the story, starts yapping on and on about something entirely irrelevant, then, when you point that out and they begin to understand why this has zero to do with Bush and zero to do with Iraq and just how stupid it is to make a comment like "do as I do", he begins to realize it, and instead of admitting it, he goes ahead and starts a 40 post grudge match to try and regain the face he lost through his own stupidity. Yes. That's irritating. Are you quite sure this doesn't have something to do with Israel?

Admit you had no idea what this story was about and just wanted to hijack anything with the word Iran in it to suit your own addicted need to regurgitate a bunch of democracynow.org zingers that have nothing to do with this.



...or you can sit there and flounder like you are.


No one asked you to leave. You indicated you were going to ignore me. OK. Me too. And certainly you can express any opinion you like but if it's bizarrely off topic or irrelevant you might just feel a little silly about that later when you realize it - or when someone forces you to. No use blaming other posters for that.




Um. I expect them to stop torturing and executing fragile old ladies because they don't like what they think. Too much to ask? Please enlighten me as to the hypocrisy here.

Ahk

Whilst I agree with the notion that this whole tit for tat saga started after that iraninan/ canadian journalist (Zahra Kazemi) was abducted and tortured to death by the this regime in Iran I can not help but question the timing of this. The killing of the journalist you are referring to almost happened two years before Ahmadienejad's government was formed. The motive has long been to increase the pressure on Iran and personally I think Canada has been using this opportunity to put Iran on the spotlight for its treatment of its citizens and make them react in such a way. This provides the canadian government with a rationale to appease to the US by putting Iran on the spotlight for their human rights records.  Afterall, western governments don't give/ nerver gave a hoot about the ill treatment of iraninan citizens by this brutal regime. But it all helps to build up a case against Iran especially at this time when the country might be facing a third resolution for its nuclear ambition. The politics there is very intertwined and it's extremely difficult to analyse this case without taking the Iran nuclear issue out of the equation.

<yawn> yeah whatever. You haven't said one intelligent thing yet. You're just someone who embarrassed themselves in the past and holds a grudge. You don't even know what the thread is about, you're just here to pick a fight. Plain to see you're the only troll here.




Nice to see something on topic:


But I have to disagree. This has been in the works since the day it happened. It is not Canada bringing Iran into the spot light but Ahmadienejad himself with this silly "report". Canada didn't "do" a thing. He did. This has been a long process that has finally come to a head and Canada hasn't made a peep that's been heard by any media about it all this time. Now that the original impetus for the story is long forgotten people "can't help but believe this has something to do with the recent media attacks byb the US". Well what? We told Ahmadienejad to write a instantly incredible report to embarrass himself?


I dunno. I'm sorry but this just depresses anyone with sense. I come on here all the time warning about "all-roads-of-evil-lead-o-the-US" mentality and how dangerous, inaccurate they are and what a sign of intellectual laziness it usually is and the response is always the same: "Who me? No way! That's silly!"....and then the conversation drifts right back to the US or Bush even if they have nothing to do with it.


It's just something people resort to when they dont know what else to say.


Ahk

thanks, darling,,,

i will make sure i'm n1 ,,, unlike Akh i won't spend my time to prove you being wrong,,, i will just make fun of you,,, this is what they teach us in secret Zionists Apartheid meetings,,,

Nope. Wrong again. It's about imprisoning, torturing and killing a photojournalist and other actual, real, tangible human rights abuses. There really is no argument there. Not anywhere but on an open forum. ANyone who's been paying attention and understand the first notion of this story understands that. No one who isn't Iranian disagrees.

You make me laugh with your "name-and-blame" spin as you're so eager to bring the US into this again even though they have nothing to do with it. Obviously a picture must be drawn for you. Here we go again, and 1000 posts from now until you get it:

1. They tortured and killed a photojournalist. Canada has not.

2. We have responded through the UN by pushing for these sanctions.

3. Iran doesn't care and thinks pushing this absurd document means something. It simply doesn;t.

4. People like you will push it anyways because you are incredibly dishonest and not too smart. You absolutely need to constantly divert the reality of this story into something having to do with the US. Perhaps you should seek help over this compulsion since it's obviously impeding you from understanding the most pedestrian of details.

"Name-and-blame". LOL! Closer to the truth it's "call it as it is". There is no hypocrisy because, as much as they'd like you to believe by simply writing it down on a document and presenting it to the UN makes Canada's "fantasy" human rights abuses equal to Iran's tangible real ones. To watch you dance around trying to present a point about the US that has nothing to do with anything or start singing 'Canadian hypocrisy' is sad.



Again. What on Earth are you talking about? Do you know? Are you capable of understanding a single coherent thought that has nothing to do with Bush or the US?

The article you didn't read that this thread gravitates around plainly points out the ironic situation of Cuba dumping on Canada for something they've never done or supported against Cuba; embargos, etc. Quite the opposite, we spend hundreds of millions of dollars there as tourists - prompting intelligent sane individual to ask again: what on Earth are you talking about?

Your statement is moot. This has nothing to do with the US. Say it over and over until you get it. Here you are plainly trying to tacitly connect these two non-realties: that Canada did not do any of these things but it's all Canada’s fault for doing these things. When you’re ready to come back down to Earth let me know.

You simply can't write three sentences without inexplicably drifting into your "It-must-have-something-to-do-with-the-US" dementia.  This has nothing to do with the US. Read the story again and repeat that process until you understand why. Whenever you begin to understand what this is about you just let me know and we can continue.


Don’t come back here blaming me when you realize how utterly off topic and ridiculous your musing have been.

Ahk

What exactly is this about then.



Iran levels criticisms on Canada.

Routine unlawful strip and beatings by Canadian police has been a matter of concern for international community," notes the booklet, entitled Report on Human Rights Situation in Canada, adding that "the practice of police is alarming simply because ... it is functioning as if there is no need to have judges."

...

"To the great dismay of the international community, it is a great concern that the rights of women are violated, and no serious attention has been paid in promotion and protection of women's rights in Canada.""

These charges are contrived BS, but somehow still, Canada's human rights record needs to stand on it's own and be judged. Fine, let's judge Canada's human rights record.


Until I'm informed of what human rights Canada is violating and what this has to do with the US. I'm inclined to think the people saying these things are morons.

Well you're right about one thing. This thread is about how Iran is trying to demonize Canada and Cuba jumped in to help them.

The forum must be eating your posts or something, cause I looked and looked for where these human rights violations were listed, but all I found was you going on about facts.

Sadly, there were no actual facts.

So, for a minute we'll ignore the torturous tendencies of the authoritarian muslim theocracy and the latin dictatorship of the proletariat, and focus on Canada.

What are these "facts" you were talking about? What harms has Canada been visiting upon it's citizens that warrant these accusations?