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Author Topic: Syria and the nuke plant  (Read 580 times)
machioveli
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« on: April 25, 2008, 04:19:58 AM »

seems the anti-Israel posters don't want to talk about this one. Israel put them in their place with one strike and if only the US had the balls to do it to Iran and N. Korea 4 years ago we wouldn't be in this predicament today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23599231-401,00.html

I found myself laughing at this part of the story --The head of the IAEA Mohamed ElBaradei also hit out at the United States for withholding intelligence that Syria had been building a secret nuclear reactor with North Korea's help.

Mr ElBaradei  also criticised Israel for acting on the allegations and bombing the purported reactor in a raid last September without giving IAEA inspectors an opportunity to investigate.--

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 05:41:12 AM »

Well this is more of the same really... Probably the Syrians will say this was an nuclear facility for "Energy purposes". The US knows better so they send the Israelis to do their dirty work. It's just a variation of the same theme.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 02:14:31 PM »

As much as I don't agree with Israel policy towards Palestinians,  but you don't want to see Arabs equipped with nuclear bombs.
You have the Pakis and that's more than enough, cannot afford to let Ahmadinejewhater get that.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 05:24:59 PM »


I found myself laughing at this part of the story --The head of the IAEA Mohamed ElBaradei also hit out at the United States for withholding intelligence that Syria had been building a secret nuclear reactor with North Korea's help.

Mr ElBaradei  also criticised Israel for acting on the allegations and bombing the purported reactor in a raid last September without giving IAEA inspectors an opportunity to investigate.--

I saw those stories too... very humorous... AS IF the IAEA, would actually do ANYTHING other discuss it...discuss it some more, and eventually... possibly issue some meaningless  statement threatening some possible future action everyone knows they'll never follow through on.  Meanwhile , Syria would have a nuclear facility built and operational.... and the UN would still be talking about it.

What's also funny is to go back and read the typical anti-Israel conspiracy theories presented on this forum about the bombing... It just couldn't be a nuclear facility being built in Syria with North Korea's help... IT JUST HAS TO BE evil Israel on the war path...testing Syria... soon to be testing Iran...soon to be waging war against the peace loving Muslims... etc... lol

From this forum after the bombing:
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,26/topic,134.45/

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IAEA slams U.S. for withholding data on alleged Syrian nuclear reactor
....Promising a follow-up, the statement said the IAEA will treat this information with the seriousness it deserves and will investigate the veracity of the information, adding: "Syria has an obligation ... to report the planning and construction of any nuclear facility to the Agency." ...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/978043.html

Ahh yes... And we'll all be anxiously awaiting the swift and decisive action the IAEA would/will be sure to take...  As they're doing such a great job with North Korea and Iran... lol  Grin Grin



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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 06:55:14 PM »

A little over a week ago, Israeli warplanes entered Syria's air space and fired inside Syria. Syria said it will respond in due time.

No official reason was given for the attack, but there were many "leaks", some saying they attacked a weapons shipment destined to Hizbullah, others say it was "suspected" nuclear shipment from North Korea....

Here is another version:

Israel says deterrent ability recovered after Syria strike

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JERUSALEM (AFP) — Israel boasted on Sunday it has recovered its "deterrent capability" after an air strike in Syria triggered warnings of retaliation and intense media speculation over the aim of the operation.

"The new situation affects the entire region, including Iran and Syria," military intelligence chief Amos Yadlin told parliament's powerful foreign affairs and defence committee, local media reported.

In keeping with an official Israeli wall of silence on the event, Yadlin told lawmakers he would not address the incident directly, but his statements "alluded to the Israeli raid," public radio reported.

He said Israel had now recovered its "deterrent capability" following the 2006 war against Lebanon's Hezbollah.

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Tsahi Hanegbi, head of the Israeli foreign affairs and defence committee, earlier said the government has adopted a policy of silence over the incident to ease tensions, but was taking Syrian threats of retaliation seriously.

"We have to show restraint and it is in our interest to say nothing... This policy has proven itself. The tensions have slightly eased since 12 days ago. The more we bite our tongue, the better it will go," he told public radio.

He said the tensions with Syria were a direct result of the bloody war between Israel and the Shiite Muslim militia Hezbollah in Lebanon last year that was regarded by many in Israel as a failure.

"The Syrians had the impression that we were in a state of weakness and they threw themselves into an unprecedented campaign of arms purchases," Hanegbi said.

As soon as the war ended last year, I said Israel will seek a new conflict to restore its credibilty as the myth of the Israeli army was destroyed.

It seems I was correct. I should call myself "Prophet"  Wink

Seriously, where is the outrage by the UN (where Syria has protested the incident), and would Syria be justified in leveling North Israel as a result of Israel crossing its borders?

Within a year, two cross-border operations took place in the area.

Interesting to see the reaction of the International community to both operations, eh?



yes realityman thanks for the link to the post. These are the anti-Israeli jokers I was talking about. By the way I wonder why Syria and N. Korea has been so hush hush since the incident.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2008, 11:49:59 AM »

If Iran has not been bombed yet as Syria was, it's because Iran is another peace of cake.
But Iran will be bombed if they don't stop. Period.

It would also make sens, that Iran subcontracted some job in Syria but I have not read anything yet about that.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 03:32:19 PM »

we all have our motives. Realityman just wants Israel be left alone (not in the sense of stopping the flow of US dollars and vetoes), Machioveli wishes to kick ass, no matter whose and why, it's just "us vs them", a need for conflict. Freddie desires entertainment, but also has "us (West) vs them (East)" attraction. What a thunderous deathsquad. Guys, hurry up, this might be your last chance to ignite a serious war. Sooner rather than later the power balance will no longer allow these sofa wars of distant killing.

A second Muslim nuclear country (after Pak) is a matter of time. It will happen; question only, at what price.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2008, 09:30:24 AM »

The tails regarding Syria plots of maintaining nuclear weapons shall remain questionable. Such a plot requires a lot of resources which Syria does not owe ( money, scientists, support by a major power ----).The danger threatening the middle east is the Israeli pocess of more than 200 Nuclear bombs. This threat is kept at low profile by Israel supporting powers. The fact that Israel triggered a nuclear assault offensive preparation in 1973 War is being hidden to promote condemnation by the world. Start with Israel nuclear weapons disarmament then others will stop nuclear weapons processing trials.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 10:24:25 AM »

.... and Santa gives presents to Jew boys and girls.

I owe one imaginary nuke to Palestinians and two to Saudis.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 03:47:48 PM »

seems the anti-Israel posters don't want to talk about this one. Israel put them in their place with one strike and if only the US had the balls to do it to Iran and N. Korea 4 years ago we wouldn't be in this predicament today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23599231-401,00.html

I found myself laughing at this part of the story --The head of the IAEA Mohamed ElBaradei also hit out at the United States for withholding intelligence that Syria had been building a secret nuclear reactor with North Korea's help.

Mr ElBaradei  also criticised Israel for acting on the allegations and bombing the purported reactor in a raid last September without giving IAEA inspectors an opportunity to investigate.--



Syria isn't Iran...its not the same case. 

There is a reason why the Arab didn't talk about this action...It shows a lack of respect towards Syria and their deteriorating influence in the region.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 10:18:24 PM »

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It shows a lack of respect towards Syria


or possibly abundance of respect to Israel.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 08:40:18 AM »

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or possibly abundance of respect to Israel.

What would you suggest them to do? To wipe off Jews like  you , Ukrainians did? That's why you admire Iran that much because they claim to do what your fathers done prior and during WWII.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2008, 12:27:57 PM »

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What would you suggest them to do?


I suggest them to get Israel behind the Green Line. If need be, use oil as political weapon. Get oil price to $500 per barrel or $5000 (it's $110 already) and make clear that oil will go down only after Israel gets out.

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To wipe off Jews like  you , Ukrainians did?


I don't advise anyone to imitate anything Ukrainian. Especially cuisine and driving habits.

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That's why you admire Iran that much because they claim to do what your fathers done prior and during WWII.

What if I were German? Would I have any moral right to be disturbed by the oppression of Palestinians? BTW, there are 50 000 Jews in Iran. No one "wiped them out" yet. But you can provoke pogroms by attacking Iran.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 04:33:28 PM »

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What would you suggest them to do?


I suggest them to get Israel behind the Green Line. If need be, use oil as political weapon. Get oil price to $500 per barrel or $5000 (it's $110 already) and make clear that oil will go down only after Israel gets out.

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To wipe off Jews like  you , Ukrainians did?


I don't advise anyone to imitate anything Ukrainian. Especially cuisine and driving habits.

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That's why you admire Iran that much because they claim to do what your fathers done prior and during WWII.

What if I were German? Would I have any moral right to be disturbed by the oppression of Palestinians? BTW, there are 50 000 Jews in Iran. No one "wiped them out" yet. But you can provoke pogroms by attacking Iran.

How would you convince OPEC to crank the price up that high?  you "might" be able to get Ven. and Iran on board (maybe) but thats it...you would see much much more war if oil gets that high.  It would be cheaper to level a country off and occupy it then pay those prices.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2008, 11:05:15 AM »

I suggest them to get Israel behind the Green Line. If need be, use oil as political weapon. Get oil price to $500 per barrel or $5000 (it's $110 already) and make clear that oil will go down only after Israel gets out.
If they wanted to have peace they would have done that already. Hate towards Israel and US are the only unifying things for Muslims. Otherwise they would behead each other. Like they done prior 50's of last century.

I don't advise anyone to imitate anything Ukrainian. Especially cuisine and driving habits.


then why do you defend Arab actions rather expressing your resolution to problem, like the one with oil?

What if I were German? Would I have any moral right to be disturbed by the oppression of Palestinians? BTW, there are 50 000 Jews in Iran. No one "wiped them out" yet. But you can provoke pogroms by attacking Iran.

Jews should live in Israel, like Ukrainian should live in Ukraine and not to occupy Native American's land. Those Jews who live in country whose leader claim to wipe off country of other Jews are no better than their leaders. The only special treatment i can think of when i think about Iranian Jews is a bomb with 'Star of David' on it.
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