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Fredledingue
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2008, 11:22:34 AM »
If Israel attacks Iran Why would Iran kill Iranians because they observe the hebraic religion?

No, there is only one solution to the problem: Iran stop uranium enrichement and no one attacks them.

About Israel
Iran has nothing to mess around with the Palestinian issue. Palestine and South Lebanon are not Iranian territories.
Anything Iran does there is illegal and has no legitimacy.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM »
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If they wanted to have peace they would have done that already.

some have done that already. YOu have peace with Egypt and Jordan. Since you gave them back their territories. Try same thing with Syrian and Palestinians and Lebanese.

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why do you defend Arab actions rather expressing your resolution to problem,

i've offered a mini-road map already, the first steps are voluntary resettling of refugees in Arab states, Europe, Canada, with massive financial help from the international fund; Israeli withdrawal from the Golans in framework of a peace deal with international guarantees; I also suggested bilateral defense treaty between Israel and the US, a NATO-type pact where a unprovoked attack on one partner is considered an attack on all partners.  These would be the first steps.

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Jews should live in Israel, like Ukrainian should live in Ukraine and not to occupy Native American's land.


and the Anglo-Saxons must live in Saxony (Germany) where they came from, and the Turkmen must go to Mongolia,..and Jews must go to where ever they came from to Canaan. Not forgetting that Jews are NOT native to the land they claim, eh? Basically, all humans must get back to Africa. Everyone back to Kenya, sneaky bastards.

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The only special treatment i can think of when i think about Iranian Jews is a bomb with 'Star of David' on it.

ok, that's antisemitic.

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If Israel attacks Iran Why would Iran kill Iranians because they observe the hebraic religion?

and why did the US arrest its own narrow-eyed citizens in 1942? It won't be "Iran" who kills. It'll be Iranians.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2008, 12:15:02 PM »
Quote from: Peisithanatos on May 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM
some have done that already. YOu have peace with Egypt and Jordan. Since you gave them back their territories. Try same thing with Syrian and Palestinians and Lebanese.

This ain't peace what we have with any of Arabs.

Quote from: Peisithanatos on May 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM
i've offered a mini-road map already, the first steps are voluntary resettling of refugees in Arab states, Europe, Canada, with massive financial help from the international fund; Israeli withdrawal from the Golans in framework of a peace deal with international guarantees; I also suggested bilateral defense treaty between Israel and the US, a NATO-type pact where a unprovoked attack on one partner is considered an attack on all partners.  These would be the first steps.

This is nowhere near what Arabs prepared to do and you are free to have negotiations chair since nobody wants that anymore.


Quote from: Peisithanatos on May 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM
Not forgetting that Jews are NOT native to the land they claim, eh? Basically, all humans must get back to Africa. Everyone back to Kenya, sneaky bastards.

With your historical facts like yours you should come back to Wonderland. What Africa? Who told you that first life came from Africa? Why Jews shouldn't claim Israel as homeland? They had it for few ages like Arabs, Turks, Romans and pretty everybody else. Arabs and Jews claim right to this land thus they fight and 'we got a winner'. Palestinians can fo.

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ok, that's antisemitic.
No, this is humour
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 01:27:10 PM »
Syria to let in U.N. nuclear investigators: ElBaradei   angel

Quote from: a senior diplomat familiar with the matter
The trip was expected to include inspector visits to the remote al-Kabir site targeted by Israel and other places. (2-3 sites beyond al-Kabir were under scrutiny.)

But they are likely to find no proof... 9 months the site has been cleared out and the radiactive dust Kärcher'ed away. Undecided

Quote from: By William J. Broad and Mark Mazzetti Published on October 25, 2007, for the Herald Tribune
New commercial satellite photos show that a Syrian site believed to have been attacked by Israel last month no longer bears any obvious traces of what some analysts said appeared to have been a partly built nuclear reactor.

Two photos, taken Wednesday from space by rival companies, show the site near the Euphrates River to have been wiped clean since August, when imagery showed a tall square building there measuring about 150 feet on a side.

...But the images, federal and private analysts say, suggest that the Syrian authorities rushed to dismantle the facility after the strike, calling it a tacit admission of guilt.



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It's a magic act — here today, gone tomorrow, It doesn't lower suspicions; it raises them. This was not a long-term decommissioning of a building, which can take a year. It was speedy. It's incredible that they could have gone to that effort to make something go away.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 08:34:28 PM »
Who cares. Israel bombed inside of Syria and all Arabs and Iran 'stfu-ed' this is what counts.
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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 08:59:31 AM »
Quote from: Fredledingue on June 02, 2008, 01:27:10 PM
Syria to let in U.N. nuclear investigators: ElBaradei   angel

Quote from: a senior diplomat familiar with the matter
The trip was expected to include inspector visits to the remote al-Kabir site targeted by Israel and other places. (2-3 sites beyond al-Kabir were under scrutiny.)

But they are likely to find no proof... 9 months the site has been cleared out and the radiactive dust Kärcher'ed away. Undecided

Quote from: By William J. Broad and Mark Mazzetti Published on October 25, 2007, for the Herald Tribune
New commercial satellite photos show that a Syrian site believed to have been attacked by Israel last month no longer bears any obvious traces of what some analysts said appeared to have been a partly built nuclear reactor.

Two photos, taken Wednesday from space by rival companies, show the site near the Euphrates River to have been wiped clean since August, when imagery showed a tall square building there measuring about 150 feet on a side.

...But the images, federal and private analysts say, suggest that the Syrian authorities rushed to dismantle the facility after the strike, calling it a tacit admission of guilt.



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It's a magic act — here today, gone tomorrow, It doesn't lower suspicions; it raises them. This was not a long-term decommissioning of a building, which can take a year. It was speedy. It's incredible that they could have gone to that effort to make something go away.

they should interview N.Korea officials. Ask them why they were so upset when Israel bombed the site.
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 01:26:44 PM »
so the policy is that no Muslim nation around must have nukes. As the world changes and Uncle Sam loses vigour, how many countries will ISrael bomb to prevent regional nukization?
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 03:53:45 PM »
Quote from: Peisithanatos on May 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM
...the first steps are voluntary resettling of refugees in Arab states, Europe, Canada, with massive financial help from the international fund...

GOOOOD plan.... Need I remind you of the PLO's history in Jordan and Lebanon... And well as Hamas' history with it's neighbors??   So which Arab states are anxious to have them??  And to which Arab (or non-Arab) states are the Palestinians anxious to go to??

Their current situation is due largely to the wars those Arab states wages, and their refusal to absorb those very refugees they created with their violence aimed at Israel's destruction...

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"Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return."
Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948­-49

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The Arab refugees are being used as pawns' to create a terror breeding ground, as a form of aggression against Israel.

The Arab refugee problem was caused by Arab aggression and not Israel. Why should Israel be responsible for their fate?

No one (Arab or Jew) has a "right of return". Jews who fled Arab persecution from 1948 to 1956 should have no right of return to Arab lands, and Arabs who ran away in 1948 and 1967 should have no right of return either. This should end all argument. Yet the Jews accept this judgment, while the Arabs reject EVERYTHING. - Walid Shoebat/former PLO Terrorist
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2008, 12:51:33 PM »
Quote from: Peisithanatos on June 05, 2008, 01:26:44 PM
so the policy is that no Muslim nation around must have nukes. As the world changes and Uncle Sam loses vigour, how many countries will ISrael bomb to prevent regional nukization?

Every country which tries.

And I support that.

That's the only way to stop this MAD proliferation and an eventual nuclear war in the long term.
That's the only way those who still believe they will become great as soon as they have nukes will understand.

I hope Ayatolah Rhomeyni has understood now (as suggested in his last public speech).
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