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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 11:25:33 PM » |
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... is anyone here actually fond of McCain?
Just curious.
I am. I am on the teeder of whether to vote for him and Obama. McCain has an edge right now with me personally because of what I have been saying all a long. Obama has yet to really talk about or provide solutions to foreign policy. I mean you hear bring the troops home but how? What is his take on the anti-ballistic defense system? What will he do to even trade with China and other import countries? Do we take a hands off approach on Iran, and if we do renew diplomatic relations with them what would you ask of them? There are more questions but you get my point. We all know where McCain stands and that is why we do not like him but I would like to hear Obama speak more about these as they have a direct impact on us. And I know you are wondering why I didn't mention Clinton. Well if she wins then it is a no brainer for me. His NPR debate answered the China question quite well as far as I'm concerned. He also talked about Iran, though I don't remember those remarks as clearly. Here's a transcript: His performance in this debate was, incidentally, the first time I took much notice of him at all. The part about Iran is the first few pages and China comes up around 8 or 9. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 07:56:15 AM » |
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Wiglaf, thanks for that. No one has really talked about China and it's good to here someone mention it...
... though I remember his old quote about, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" (to the tune of "Barbara Ann") and I was unimpressed and a little pissed.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2008, 01:23:41 PM » |
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Bush isn't a conservative. If you had any knowledge of conservative views, you wouldn't be posting with such sarcasm.
Hey, Totino! See, I remember you back long enough to where you were a big Bush supporter. We got into so many fights in 2004. Yep, Bush could do no wrong for you back then. Now, all of a sudden, Bush is not a conservative anymore. So what was he then? What were you then? You both claimed you were conservatives. See, I actually pay attention. You are one of those rats jumping the Bush ship, trying to pretend he wasn't a conservative. It's delightfully funny. Oh, I know there are a lot like you around here, once strutting around, sneering at liberals, acting like the chosen ones. A big Bush supporter? Not really. But compared to Kerry back in 2004? I was absolutely for him. Trying to pretend he isn't a conservative? I don't need to pretend. I know I've explained this before and listed pieces of his policy which show his lack of conservatism. Apparently you have a selective memory? |
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2008, 06:07:44 AM » |
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Are you at Ft Bliss?
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Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2008, 11:53:41 AM » |
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Bush isn't a conservative. If you had any knowledge of conservative views, you wouldn't be posting with such sarcasm.
Hey, Totino! See, I remember you back long enough to where you were a big Bush supporter. We got into so many fights in 2004. Yep, Bush could do no wrong for you back then. Now, all of a sudden, Bush is not a conservative anymore. So what was he then? What were you then? You both claimed you were conservatives. See, I actually pay attention. You are one of those rats jumping the Bush ship, trying to pretend he wasn't a conservative. It's delightfully funny. Oh, I know there are a lot like you around here, once strutting around, sneering at liberals, acting like the chosen ones. A big Bush supporter? Not really. But compared to Kerry back in 2004? I was absolutely for him. Trying to pretend he isn't a conservative? I don't need to pretend. I know I've explained this before and listed pieces of his policy which show his lack of conservatism. Apparently you have a selective memory? LOL! Yeah, yeah, and I've previously pointed out how he was more conservative than Reagan. Reagan signed two tax hikes, Bush cut taxes twice...in the middle of a war. Nah, your boy has destroyed the Reagan Revolution by exposing it for the thuggery and theft that it was. Now you run run run, golly, no, he sure was no conservative. NOT! |
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2008, 10:09:08 AM » |
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Bush isn't a conservative. If you had any knowledge of conservative views, you wouldn't be posting with such sarcasm.
Hey, Totino! See, I remember you back long enough to where you were a big Bush supporter. We got into so many fights in 2004. Yep, Bush could do no wrong for you back then. Now, all of a sudden, Bush is not a conservative anymore. So what was he then? What were you then? You both claimed you were conservatives. See, I actually pay attention. You are one of those rats jumping the Bush ship, trying to pretend he wasn't a conservative. It's delightfully funny. Oh, I know there are a lot like you around here, once strutting around, sneering at liberals, acting like the chosen ones. A big Bush supporter? Not really. But compared to Kerry back in 2004? I was absolutely for him. Trying to pretend he isn't a conservative? I don't need to pretend. I know I've explained this before and listed pieces of his policy which show his lack of conservatism. Apparently you have a selective memory? LOL! Yeah, yeah, and I've previously pointed out how he was more conservative than Reagan. Reagan signed two tax hikes, Bush cut taxes twice...in the middle of a war. Nah, your boy has destroyed the Reagan Revolution by exposing it for the thuggery and theft that it was. Now you run run run, golly, no, he sure was no conservative. NOT! Irwin, the 30 year old guy that works for $7.50 and lives with Mommy thinks he is a Great Political Mind. Its presious really.. I wonder if he wears a padded helmet when he plays in the yard... |
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2008, 12:13:03 PM » |
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When he flipped on the torture issue I lost the last modicum of respect I may have had for the man...as small as that may have been.
One reason I'm gonna vote for him, his positions on foreign policy. I think we can both be assured John McCain can make a better determination on what is torture and what is not than any of us on this thread....yes? Please. Btw, my last modicum of respect was also used by the two candidates for President from the Dem Big Top. For, at least the Presidential Candidate on the Republican side of the aisle cared enough to show up for the vote...so important was the issue....John McCain actually IS on record and either critique or respect can be given for it. The two circus clowns offered by the Democrats too busy campaigning to participate. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2008, 06:10:21 AM » |
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When he flipped on the torture issue I lost the last modicum of respect I may have had for the man...as small as that may have been.
One reason I'm gonna vote for him, his positions on foreign policy. I think we can both be assured John McCain can make a better determination on what is torture and what is not than any of us on this thread....yes? Please. Btw, my last modicum of respect was also used by the two candidates for President from the Dem Big Top. For, at least the Presidential Candidate on the Republican side of the aisle cared enough to show up for the vote...so important was the issue....John McCain actually IS on record and either critique or respect can be given for it. The two circus clowns offered by the Democrats too busy campaigning to participate. Interesting to me how Flipper McCain changed his prediction about how long he would be in Iraq by only 95 years when he found that 100 years didn't pole well. Given McCain's past stance on torture and his acceptance of the Bush doctrines torture policies demonstrates his total lack of principled backbone and his willingness to sell whatever morality he had for party loyalty. |
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2008, 06:16:11 AM » |
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Interesting to me how Flipper McCain changed his prediction about how long he would be in Iraq by only 95 years when he found that 100 years didn't pole well. Well, unless someone produces a crystal ball, any guess is just that...a guess. He was exactly right when he said we could be there a while. Democrats twisted his words (imagine that) and distorted his meaning. When fantasy meets reality, even Hill and Obama know they won't start pulling troops 6 months after in office. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2008, 06:40:28 AM » |
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Interesting to me how Flipper McCain changed his prediction about how long he would be in Iraq by only 95 years Again, McCain the only Candidate man enough to actually record a vote. I ain't no huge McCain fan, however, he's simply and clearly preferable to the two women running from the Dem Party. |
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2008, 02:06:11 PM » |
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Interesting to me how Flipper McCain changed his prediction about how long he would be in Iraq by only 95 years Again, McCain the only Candidate man enough to actually record a vote. I ain't no huge McCain fan, however, he's simply and clearly preferable to the two women running from the Dem Party. There you go again ...why don't you write in Chuck Norris or Jesse Ventura clearly you prefer balls to brains |
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2008, 04:32:17 PM » |
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There you go again ...why don't you write in Chuck Norris or Jesse Ventura clearly you prefer balls to brains I'm merely intelligent enough to realize both are needed. And smart enough to point out the two Dem clowns have neither. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2008, 06:02:07 PM » |
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Very funny ( the part where you claim intelligence)
Balls or not one of those "Dem Clowns" will be your next president... get used to it Char Mar.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2008, 08:04:39 AM » |
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Very funny ( the part where you claim intelligence)
Balls or not one of those "Dem Clowns" will be your next president... get used to it Char Mar.
I reckon if I can become accustomed to uneducated jokes such as yourself trolling forums, I don't see why I couldn't become accustomed to one of these circus clowns occupying the Oval Office. |
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2008, 03:06:58 PM » |
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Are you at Ft Bliss?
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