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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 07:34:23 PM » |
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It proves democracy is a faraud. The UK people always complain no matter which government. we in china are happy with our party. they lead us to strenght
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 09:32:05 PM » |
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It proves democracy is a faraud. The UK people always complain no matter which government. we in china are happy with our party. they lead us to strenght
Because you have no other options. You really don't have even a basic understanding of what it is to be free do you? Ask a party leader, he might explain it to you. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 10:48:58 PM » |
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It proves democracy is a faraud. The UK people always complain no matter which government. we in china are happy with our party. they lead us to strenght
Because you have no other options. You really don't have even a basic understanding of what it is to be free do you? Ask a party leader, he might explain it to you. You dont have any idea of that. UK is a police state today just look at there newspapers. all they talk about is the crimes rate and murder their. here in china we are all safe from harm and crime. |
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Viv.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 07:02:02 AM » |
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It proves democracy is a faraud. The UK people always complain no matter which government. we in china are happy with our party. they lead us to strenght
Because you have no other options. You really don't have even a basic understanding of what it is to be free do you? Ask a party leader, he might explain it to you. You dont have any idea of that. UK is a police state today just look at there newspapers. all they talk about is the crimes rate and murder their. here in china we are all safe from harm and crime. You don't talk about your crime rate, but say you're safe from crime. How would you know you are safe? If you don't talk about the crime rate, you don't know what is going on. Hiding information does not change the reality of what is happening around you. Information is power... |
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fishbrain
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 11:09:52 PM » |
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I never have been victim of crime. friends have lived in UK and US and been burgle, robbed, beaten up, knifed.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2008, 02:18:42 AM » |
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Lol...could be many reasons for that to happen though.  I know a few Chinese people who live in this area. They are the most frequent customers at the Casino in Glasgow and are well known as pretty addicted gamblers. One friend lost his restaurant through this addiction. I live in the UK and have never been beaten up, burgled, robbed or stabbed. I live in a decent area, but there are bad areas everywhere, which local people know it is wise to avoid. Are you suggesting no one in China lives in a bad area? |
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2008, 02:37:30 AM » |
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In poor place there have no crime too. People can sit outside and talk, play the chess and cards, there have community, its not like uk or us where everyone is scared of the outside in the streets.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2008, 06:10:02 AM » |
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In poor place there have no crime too. People can sit outside and talk, play the chess and cards, there have community, its not like uk or us where everyone is scared of the outside in the streets.
No one is scared of being outside here, fishbrain. But you'd be after being mad to sit outside today. It's bouncing with rain. Anyway, the reality of living here is different from your perception, probably results from limited access to information about the world... |
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2008, 07:58:44 AM » |
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In poor place there have no crime too. People can sit outside and talk, play the chess and cards, there have community, its not like uk or us where everyone is scared of the outside in the streets.
This is very typical of someone that bleats about 'you know nothing about china' to prove he knows nothing about anywhere else himself. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2008, 08:14:59 AM » |
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In poor place there have no crime too. People can sit outside and talk, play the chess and cards, there have community, its not like uk or us where everyone is scared of the outside in the streets.
No one is scared of being outside here, fishbrain. But you'd be after being mad to sit outside today. It's bouncing with rain. Tell me about it. So much for a british weather... There's always a perfect finish to a good start with a thunder shower of course  On a serious note though Viv we do have a big problem here in UK with the yob cuture, binge drinking and rising crime rates typically amongst teenagers, which the current government seems unable to control. There seem to be a lack of direction and it's getting worse day by day. This coupled with lack of education and poor upbringing by parents are other contributory factors to the current phenomena IMO. |
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2008, 08:50:40 AM » |
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Thank you kactus that is what i mean . we don't have these problems in china.
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2008, 09:43:43 AM » |
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In poor place there have no crime too. People can sit outside and talk, play the chess and cards, there have community, its not like uk or us where everyone is scared of the outside in the streets.
No one is scared of being outside here, fishbrain. But you'd be after being mad to sit outside today. It's bouncing with rain. Tell me about it. So much for a british weather... There's always a perfect finish to a good start with a thunder shower of course On a serious note though Viv we do have a big problem here in UK with the yob cuture, binge drinking and rising crime rates typically amongst teenagers, which the current government seems unable to control. There seem to be a lack of direction and it's getting worse day by day. This coupled with lack of education and poor upbringing by parents are other contributory factors to the current phenomena IMO. Undisputed, kactus. Just sure there are similar in China... Or it is a Stepford life there?  Inner cities have such problems everywhere. I do not live in a city, but close to a large town where there is a drug subculture and from that other problems arise. That is an issue which really irritates me...because of my line of work I am aware that there was no drug problem in this area until government cutbacks reduced the number of preventive officers here and importation of drugs became much more feasible. The government has lost sight of the cause and available solution to this, i.e. to increase the physical presence of law enforcement. Instead it is now conducting another round of destruction of the drug prevention forces which will no doubt reinforce the strength of the drug culture and the surrounding problems. Teenagers will always drink if they can and rebel... |
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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2008, 11:11:38 PM » |
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I can guarantee that even in poor part of China, there is no of these kind of problems here. Young people are greatly loved by their families. West has rich, but has forgotten the other thing.
I never hear of old lady being beaten by ten young people. if that to happen in china, perputrators would be locked up for the rest of their lives. it would not be thinkable for youngsters to smoke drugs or drink alcohol.
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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2008, 11:20:09 PM » |
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"""" This is very typical of someone that bleats about 'you know nothing about china' to prove he knows nothing about anywhere else himself. """"
Well that would describe our resident super hero wouldn't it.
What do you know about China?
Jack !!!
Fact is, China, at a street level, is far safer than the west.
Cities in China are incredibly safe up until 2am and then, like anywhere, you should be a little wary.
In the villages everyone is in bed by 8pm anyway.
Respect for the old in China is miles ahead of the west.
You do get petty crime like pick pockets if you;re dumb enough.
But I will tell you this, in capitals, just in case tiny minds can't take it all in...
WHAT YOU DO NOT GET IN CHINA, IS CRIME FOR FUN.
YOU DO NOT GET 10 YOUNG GUYS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE AND BEATING UP ONE FOR FUN
YOU DO NOT GET OLD LADIES BASHED FOR FUN.
Live here for a while and you might climb of your high horse and realize how sick western society is becoming.
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2008, 01:07:17 AM » |
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The thread is about the Labour Party in the UK? People posting here are interested in that subject, that is why they are reading a thread about the UK. Probably why they have no interest in hearing rhetoric about China. Regarding your statements, no one can dispute them because China does not allow information to circulate. The west has faults, not disputed. All societies do. Call me old fashioned, I like making my own decisions and enjoy freedom of speech. To suggest that old people are not loved or cared for in the west is inaccurate. They are. The case you mention is in the news because it is unusual. Regarding young people...they rebel, it is expected. A temporary stage of growing up. Here, they can get involved with things like protest rallies, as Government in the west doesn't take them off for private education, never to be seen again. No doubt the youth issues which exist here, are affected by this prospect in China. I do not regard shooting and flattening students with tanks, to be caring for children, btw. What is your perpective on this: Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China. The square was the scene of a brutal government crackdown on democracy protestors in the summer of 1989.Paved open space in central Beijing (Peking), China, the largest public square in the world (area 0.4 sq km/0.14 sq mi). On 3-4 June 1989 more than 1,000 unarmed protesters were killed by government troops in a massacre that crushed China's emerging pro-democracy movement. http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Tien+An+Men+square |
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