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Author Topic: Black Racism in Democratic Primaries  (Read 379 times)
Abraxas
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2008, 08:00:22 AM »

Wo! When did voting for the guy with the same skin color as you become racist?

Neue is right. If they're voting for him CAUSE he's black, then that it just as bad as voting against him cause he's black... but what's wrong with voting for him cause you think a black president would be good for the country? Or better yet that Obama (as the man, not the ethnicity) would be good for the country?

It's not unreasonable to think that just as many people voting for Obama cause he's black are voting against him for the same reason. Take a look at Stormfront and you may see some of them.

Basically, why the fuck does it have to be about race? It just doesn't help the situation of either side.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2008, 08:04:47 AM »

Im not saying its a good or a bad thing, just asking peoples opinions, and whether they see the correlation or not.
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 09:21:14 AM »

I was wondering about a similar line too, I wasn't going to go to call people racist, but I am curious about "black" voters voting as a block. Is that normal and being given arbitrary media attention or did I miss it other times or is that really something new?  I'm also a little curious about what black means in those statistics.

80%+ whites are not voting against Obama. I think there is a difference between community that is based on being racist being racist and a demographic aligning behind someone who might fall into the demographic depending on definitions.

I understand Obama creates quite the buzz in some circles and I'd expect the more people talk about such things  the more they will tend to agree. I see this as another facet of Obama's social networking [positive spin word for virus] that has charged up his fans across all demographics.

As an aside does stormfront and related really have a political machine worth considering? I understand thinking race matters, but are there many who think that's the most important issue? And these are primaries, are there democrats who think that way? I think it's bad to give stormfront-ers more importance than they deserve.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 09:59:41 AM »

Like sheep, blacks vote for the democrat.

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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 10:44:01 AM »

As Im sure you are all aware, Obama has a great lead among the African Americans. Here are the leads in a few states: Percentages of black voters voting obama-

NC: 92%
IN: 90%
AL: 83%
PA: 85%
TX: 85%
OH: 88%

Now, they were saying on npr a few days ago how there was racism at play in the whites in Indiana because Obama had lost the white vote 40-60%. What Im proposing is that the feeling of blacks that Obama would better represent their issues, which is why he is getting such support amongst them, as no white candidate has ever gotten 90% of the white vote, is racist. So how do yall feel about racially motivated voting? For or against?

Actually, before Obama proved himself in Iowa, an overwhelmingly white state, most blacks supported Clinton. Bill was beloved by blacks, even called the "first black president" because of Kenneth Starr's Congressional lynching...until Bill made a fool of himself with personal attacks on Obama. Obama proved, unlike Jesse Jackson, that he could get a white vote. When blacks realized Obama was no Jesse Jackson, like Catholics who came out for Kennedy, they went to bat for him. They saw a black man that could actually do it. The Republicans should have figured out a way to run Powel. He might have gained the black vote for a generation for them. They went with Bush because Powel was smart enough to refuse.
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2008, 11:59:58 AM »

lol.. Irwin the politial genious is at it again....   Roll Eyes

Just becasue you think ist a fact does nto make it a fact you know  haha

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2008, 01:06:02 PM »

Reaganite, the entire country can be broken up into blocs. Even those that vote for a Republican - like Evangelicals, for instance.
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