Como se dice flip-flop?
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2008/05/como-se-dice-fl.html

 John McCain is using Cinco de Mayo, the most American of Mexican holidays, to launch a Spanish-language version of his website. He's also agreed to attend the National Council of La Raza annual conference this summer, which has the usual suspects up in arms.

McCain will have to pull off an interesting balancing act as the general election nears: wooing crucial, increasingly Democratic-leaning Latino voters while roping in Republicans who favor tighter immigration policies. He got a bit of practice doing just that during Republican debates -- goaded by single-issue long-shots Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo, not to mention the back-and-forth between Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee over who dared show compassion to immigrants.

But since last summer, when comprehensive immigration reform lost another round in Congress, McCain has moved further away from his original position, as expressed in a bill he co-sponsored with Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.). Now McCain emphasizes a security-first approach and he has said he wouldn't even vote for his original bill if it came up again in Congress (See The Times' McCain endorsement for the editorial board's take on that switch.)

And while it is pretty clear that a good number of Latino voters -- whether newly-registered or not -- don't like tough-on-immigration rhetoric, it's not clear whether having a Spanish-language website gets them all that excited. After all, most second-generation and almost all third-generation Latinos speak English. Symbolism does count for something, but it probably wouldn't compensate for an about-face on comprehensive immigration reform.

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He was for it, before he was against it, you know.

I am curious what facts and links are used to back up the claim the hispanic voters are increasingly leaning democrats..

If the race is McCain vs Obama, Mcain will take over 60% of the hispanic vote in CA, AZ, NM, TX, FL, NJ, NY....  There are more hispanics in those states then african americans, so if Obama gets 98% of the black vote it will be a wash... SO that means the white Male vote which is used to be a 50-50 split will be the most inportant voting block and that means(the reason why hillary keeps winning the middle class states) Obama is in real trouble.


Btw McCain is a HUGE flip flopper, but he has worked hard to make it seem like he is a MAVERICK not a flip flopper.

Anti-immigration is much like 'tort-reform' - policy proposals that are much loved by a small segment of the most vocal base of the Republican party and of interest to virtually no one else.

The 2006 midterms were a massive failure for the anti-immigration policy push.

Nothing personal, but I'm not aware of such a distinction being meaningful or substantive in any way if you actually look at the content of what 'anti-immigration' people are saying about the issue.

USA has an illegal immigration problem because it has long choosen to categorize immigrants in that way.

The immigrants are coming no matter what - the only real issue is how you deal with that problem - either you can manage the process with legal immigration, or you can mis-manage the process and pander to the big-business lobby by categorizing immigrants as 'aliens' so that they can be paid less and denied rights.  Apparently the latter policy is quite electorally popular.

As far as I can tell, illegals voting is one of the most miniscule parts of voter fraud. More dead people vote than illegals.

Than I think you're looking only as hard as you want to.

I hope you're not doing that because it's easier to look at those who support an end to illegal immigration as bigots.


Can you flesh this out some? I don't exactly know what you're saying...


As long as they have an incentive to come here, yes, they will.

Eliminate the incentive and their motivation will decrease.


No.

You can tell buisnesses to stop hiring illegal workers and severely punish those that do. Once illegal immigrants can't come here and can't get a job, they won't come over unless they REALLY want to come to America. If we refine the immigration process, this can be done at a faster, more organized pace than what we have now.

The problem is two-fold. Legal immigration services are too slow and illegal immigration is too atractive.