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Author Topic: A better web for you to learn about China.  (Read 1143 times)
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« on: May 08, 2008, 06:26:46 AM »

Tell you more, if you go to http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forumsub.php?gid=2.


Your media are always cheating. You never know what Chinese are thinking about.
Go and have a look at that web, and make you get more fresh air. That's better for your spiritual growth. Wink

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 09:41:58 AM »

What exactly do you mean when you say our media is always cheating? Do you think the rest of the world has a particularly bad view of the Chinese people?
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 09:48:43 AM »

Nope. We're not letting you spooks come in here and use IAP for a place to spam your propaganda. All you did was link us to another forum. No information at all. You guys have created new threads to basically say the same thing. There was nothing stopping you from posting this link in one of those threads.

It's not our media that is cheating. Everyone's laughing at you because you don't know anything about the outside world. it is you living in a fishbowl hermetically sealed from the truth, not us. It is your country that decides what people can read and what they can't, not us. So don't sit there and act like you know something because you don't. You are as ignorant about the world you live in as you are about your own government.



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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 09:43:52 AM »

it is you living in a fishbowl hermetically sealed from the truth, not us.

Actually some of us have lived in both the West and China.

Of course, Western politics is extremely fair and honest too since the UK government often holds referendums, etc ... NOT! I suppose one difference in the UK is that when someone lies, the press usually jumps on that lie and exposes it faster.

Most people in China are too busy doing what everyone else in the World is doing - getting on with making money and living.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 09:47:37 AM »

mr_pluck your honesty is refreshing.


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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 09:50:04 AM »

it is you living in a fishbowl hermetically sealed from the truth, not us.

Actually some of us have lived in both the West and China.

Of course, Western politics is extremely fair and honest too since the UK government often holds referendums, etc ... NOT! I suppose one difference in the UK is that when someone lies, the press usually jumps on that lie and exposes it faster.

Most people in China are too busy doing what everyone else in the World is doing - getting on with making money and living.
This is one of the most honest posts from any of the latest influx of Chinese posters.  I can't really speak to the UK political scene, but I know more about the US.  The desire to rule, whether by election or force, should remove you from that role.  And yes, most people are just trying to improve their own lives, and their children's. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 06:27:59 PM »

Tell you more, if you go to http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forumsub.php?gid=2.


Your media are always cheating. You never know what Chinese are thinking about.
Go and have a look at that web, and make you get more fresh air. That's better for your spiritual growth. Wink

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Okay, I had a look at it. Seems like a good forum from what I can gather  Smiley

But here is a genuine question for you.

Take one of the posts you have at your forum

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in regards to western Ti.bet pro.t.estors. This is something that the CHin.ese need to understand better. This is not the majority of western people pro.t.esting. This is the fr.ee mo.dern dev.elo.ped world here. Whenever an issues arrises about anything, there is always going to be a min.ority group of pro.t.estors in a fr.ee country wherever you go, and for whatever issue. Trust me, 99% of the wes.tern pop.ulation are simply driving their kids to school, going to work, coming home, watching the football on TV, and going to bed. (And then we read the newspaper and it claims that Chin.ese are all ha.ting us?Huh?? Why? What have we done?)

Of course, the news will always foc.us on a group pf pro.t.estors, because it's something happening, that's what the news does, but then the CHin.ese make a huge sw.eeping gen.eralising st.ate.ments about the west, turn around and write a heap of ab.use in your own news to return the fire, and then the west reads that and makes a huge sw.eeping gen.eralising state.ment about Ch.ina! (such as "g.oons and th.ugs") Do you see what I mean? Do you see the mis.understanding?

Even with H.u's recent visit to Japan there were a min.ority group of Japanese just yesterday pro.t.esting over hum.an rig.hts in Ti.bet. This is simply the fr.ee world, the right for free.dom of sp.eech, the right to pro.t.est! Sometimes it gets misinterpreted in the media. No matter what law you make, there will be a pro.t.est. If you make a law against having rubber tires on your car, there will be a group of people who probably eat rubber tyres and depend on it for their health that will protest!!!! (bad example, but you see my point) or something ridiculous! It's called the FREE WORLD!

Yes, the west needs to ed.ucate itself on it's history of Tib.et and also not be so sus.pic.ious of CHina, but CHina also needs to ed.ucate itself on how the mod.ern developed free world operates in order for the world to embrace them and not be so sus.picious of them. Then we can all be happy

Nothing wrong with the post  Smiley but I couldn't help noticing that the following words had . mingled in to break up the words and thus avoid any name search on the web or circumvent any filters or search engines.


Tibet
Protesting
Protestors
Free
Modern
Developed
China
Goons
Thugs
Human Rights
Freedom of Speech
Educate

So i was just curious why these words were broken up and the rest of the words wern't.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 06:20:40 AM »

Wow, if those are the words the poster thinks will activate filters on the internet in China then thats a bit revealing.

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 12:17:30 AM »

Not the internet in China generally, but the China Daily site simply doesn't post them if they contain those words.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 12:24:50 AM »

Not the internet in China generally, but the China Daily site simply doesn't post them if they contain those words.

Why not Pengy?

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2008, 12:49:39 PM »

You know the answer.  Everyone does.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 11:43:56 PM »

Not the internet in China generally, but the China Daily site simply doesn't post them if they contain those words.

Why not Pengy?


They have the right to include or not include whatever they want on their site, just as any web forum's adminstrator does.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2008, 08:16:29 AM »

Naturally but that doesn't answer why.

One can understand why the word c*nt might be filtered out, but "Human rights"? "Protester"? "Tibet"?

I imagine plenty of China Daily refugees here would be pretty dissapointed if you couldn't use the word "Tibet".



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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 08:24:12 AM »

Who is it that runs the board?  And what might their reasons be for filtering certain words out?  Our board is owned by an individual.  He could filter a lot.  But he has chosen to not filter much at all.  Blatantly illegal activities, pedophilia, hate symbols such as Nazi ones etc.  The list of not alloweds is small here.  On ChinaDaily it is large.  Why?  And what are those decisions based on?  The answers to these questions would be quite telling.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 12:41:52 PM »

It doesn't matter though does it?  People are trying to say it says something about China as a whole or its government, when really it says the square root of f.a.
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