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Reaganite
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2008, 10:02:19 PM »

Only if she manages to somehow seat FL and MI and take the popular vote as well as the delegates...and THEN, convince the SD she can beat McCain.

She will have to steal it but she is clearly going to try.

Nope, even if both are seated, she wouldn't have enough. I can't find the link i posted here earlier about it. So, have it as you will.

Incidentally, There will be delegates from both states represented, according to party leaders, I think Dean said it on Russert. Something will be thought up but it will favor neither candidate.

If they had been counted she would have had the lead after florida and MI voted and the momentum.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2008, 07:51:46 AM »

Yep, just as I thought.

Oh, do you think I couldn't give you a good enough reason why I disagree and wouldn't vote for her?

Well, at the top of the list is her vote to put the Republic Guard on the list of terrorist organizations. She's either way to concerned with pandering the right wing hawks OR she hasn't learned anything about the abuse of power from her predecssor, George Bush. Also, I don't like the way her universal healthcare program forces everyone in to it. I'm not even a fan of UHC, especially now when our economy couldn't look worse, but at least Obama's system is a matter of choice. Plus, Her "gas tax holiday" is crap and will only make the issue worse. And her negative campaign has only helped me dislike her more.

Is that as "garbled, rambling, and inaccurate" explanation as you usually get?
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2008, 09:51:16 AM »

Only if she manages to somehow seat FL and MI and take the popular vote as well as the delegates...and THEN, convince the SD she can beat McCain.

She will have to steal it but she is clearly going to try.

Nope, even if both are seated, she wouldn't have enough. I can't find the link i posted here earlier about it. So, have it as you will.

Incidentally, There will be delegates from both states represented, according to party leaders, I think Dean said it on Russert. Something will be thought up but it will favor neither candidate.

If they had been counted she would have had the lead after florida and MI voted and the momentum.

That is impossible to say since they did not follow the rules and no one campaigned in Florida and Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan, though I do give you credit for creative speculation, but that is all you post amounts to.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2008, 09:55:00 AM »

Once Obama has won the majority of the pledge delegates, many of the SD will then through their support behind Obama (Some have already admitted as much on talk shows).  I believe Obama just needs 30 more pledge delegates to have a majority.  So mathematically speaking it is very unlikely that Hillary is able to win the nomination.  Having Florida and Michigan seated will only ensure that Obama hits that 2025 number.

May 20th will probably be the last day of Hillary's campaign.  (Here is hoping).

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