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Author Topic: There aren few differences between the Western and China  (Read 1232 times)
Lollipop
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« on: May 08, 2008, 09:54:03 PM »

      Hello everbody,I am a collage student in China.I think we know what  freedom and  democracy are. I read some of your posts.I find what you describe is the situation several decades ago. Now in China people could talk about politics everywhere.You could say something good or bad about the goverment.And you could even swear the politicians like "f**k you,son of bit*h".It is ok.If the goverment offend you, you can accuse them.(many people won the lawsuit)  Young people like watching NBA , NHL American idol  and so on. To me,I like eminem very much.He is a brilliant raper.Coldplay is my favorite band.We also make friends with some foreigners.My friend Alfonso is from Mexico,he really enjoys the life in Sichuan province.(He is good at attracting a lot of beautiful girls in the bar...)I don't want to say something about Tibet here.I just want to invite you to come here and see what China and Tibet looks like.Using your eyes and ears,buddy,don't just complain and blame before your computer.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 10:07:01 PM »

    I just want to invite you to come here and see what China looks like.Using your eyes and ears,buddy,don't just complain and blame before your computer.
Thanks Lollipop, and I'm inviting you to Australia.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 10:47:11 PM »

Yes, China today is just the same with USA.  But Tibetans are better off than native americans, iraqis, palestinians and afghans, thanks to the good china policy compared to zionist US policy
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 08:34:12 AM »

Do you even know what Zionist mean ? Zionists are Jewish ppl prior to Israel's creation who fought for Israel's creation. Since Israel is already a country for at least 60 years and none of American government main figures are Jewish makes you sound like Hitler who said exact the same stuff about US prior WWII. You are Nazist made in China that's what you are. Probably since creation of ryal German Nazis became expensive these days the the factory been moved to China to cheapen the project.

Anyway good luck
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 09:46:57 AM »

Bush is more like hitler
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 09:49:27 AM »

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...more than Mao? no, not by a long shot.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2008, 10:51:45 AM »

Bush is more like hitler

US foreign policy has Russia and back wise. When China got Zionist Tibetans and ruin life of real Tibetans that live better than any royal Chinese. How do you spell Adolf on your language? Mao?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 11:06:49 AM »

      Hello everbody,I am a collage student in China.I think we know what  freedom and  democracy are. I read some of your posts.I find what you describe is the situation several decades ago. Now in China people could talk about politics everywhere.You could say something good or bad about the goverment.And you could even swear the politicians like "f**k you,son of bit*h".It is ok.If the goverment offend you, you can accuse them.(many people won the lawsuit) 

This is absolutely false.  I travel to China frequently.  To say that Chinese people know freedom and democracy is demostrably false.  When a few brave Chinese students protested in favor of democracy in Tianamen, they were mercilessly gunned down by the hundreds by a brutal, totalitarian government with a chokehold on the people.  This has not changed.  To wit, read this report from Human Rights Watch.  The synopsis of the report states:  "This 142-page report details consistent patterns of abuses against legal practitioners. These include intimidation, harassment, suspension of professional licenses, disbarment, physical assaults, and even arrest and prosecution when lawyers take politically sensitive cases, seek redress for abuses of power and wrongdoings by party or government agents, or challenge local power-holders."  http://www.hrw.org/reports/2008/china0408/.  The report details how lawyers that take politically sensitive cases are disbarred, imprisoned and arrested. 

Chinese brutality is not limited at lawyers.  Religious leaders, community activists, authors, professors, economists are all subject to arbitrary imprisonment and violence at the hands of an oppressive government that controls every form of media.  The Chinese government filters the internet, limits television, and creates the news for an unsuspecting public who have no way of knowing the difference. 

Try writing a letter to your local newspaper editor asking for the independence of Taiwan.  See how that goes...

My company regularly brings Chinese nationals to our corporate headquarters for technical training.  None of them want to go back.

Young people like watching NBA , NHL American idol  and so on. To me,I like eminem very much.He is a brilliant raper.Coldplay is my favorite band.We also make friends with some foreigners.My friend Alfonso is from Mexico,he really enjoys the life in Sichuan province.(He is good at attracting a lot of beautiful girls in the bar...)

You mean, young people are allowed to watch the NBA by their government...  As to Chinese women, they are frequently brutalised into forced prostitution.  You can go through any neighborhood in Shanghai where I spend a lot of time and see row upon row of prostitution houses with young, sad looking girls dressed in lingerie selling themselves.  It's pitiful. 

I don't want to say something about Tibet here.I just want to invite you to come here and see what China and Tibet looks like.Using your eyes and ears,buddy,don't just complain and blame before your computer.

Of course you don't want to talk about Tibet.  China's aggressive brutality there is well-documented.  The same goes for the Uigher population, where the Chinese military regularly destroys whole villages killing everyone.  Yeah, let's not talk about that.  Eminem is much better topic!

By the way, China is the aboslute dirtiest place I've ever been to.  The Chinese built a new airport in Shanghai in the Pudong district with a new highway into the interior of the city.  Along the way, you see chemical factors vomitting out black ooze straight into the local river.  It's disgusting.  The streets of Shanghai are littered in trash.  The water smells nasty.  You can't even breathe the air in Beijing without a gas mask if you don't want your lungs to burn.  Everything is China is fake and cheap.

If you've never been to China, imagine pollution rampant, people everywhere, and a dictatorial government controlling nearly every facet of your life.  That's pretty spot on.

Over time, they totalitarian Communist dictatorship will crumble and rot away and I hope the Chinese people can at that time enjoy freedom.  Someday, maybe.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2008, 11:19:37 AM »

See the shameful racism of the stephen the hero
china's now development is quite the same as the england's before.  before london was dirty too, now china is dirty.  we know that.  but we are trying to get better.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2008, 11:47:22 AM »

Why is it racist to point out that China is a filthy country with rampant pollution?

Why is it racist to point out that the Chinese government brutalises its population, restricts their freedom, and regularly throws dissidents into jail never to be heard from again?

Why is it racist to point out that the Chinese government's policies have killed literally millions of human beings, while enslaving millions more?

Why is it racist to point out that without exception every Chinese national that comes to America wants to stay here rather than go back?

If that's racism, then I'm a racist.

China is filthy, horrible, brutal country.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2008, 08:21:57 PM »

Shanghai  dirty?nasty?
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2008, 08:25:37 PM »

an ordinary part of Shanghai
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2008, 08:28:14 PM »

an old street in Shanghai
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 08:30:16 PM »

the tree named "good luck"
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2008, 08:34:28 PM »

a peaceful town in Shanghai
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