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« on: May 12, 2008, 07:24:06 PM »

Anyone watching it?

I never had a European History class (which is a shame, cause I find it incredibly interesting) and am curious if anyone could say how true to form it all is. My dad taught European History AGES ago, but now he's a visual arts teacher, so he's pretty much my fact checker, but he's admittidly rusty.

As for the show, it's really quite good. Dramatic, fast paced and the acting is phenominal. And the ladies? Wow! Just... wow!

Anyway, I'm bored and thought I'd see if anyone has seen it...
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 07:09:23 AM »

Anyone watching it?

I never had a European History class (which is a shame, cause I find it incredibly interesting) and am curious if anyone could say how true to form it all is. My dad taught European History AGES ago, but now he's a visual arts teacher, so he's pretty much my fact checker, but he's admittidly rusty.

As for the show, it's really quite good. Dramatic, fast paced and the acting is phenominal. And the ladies? Wow! Just... wow!

Anyway, I'm bored and thought I'd see if anyone has seen it...
British medieval history is one of my fields of specialized study.  And yes, I've been watching the series.

For the most part, the series is remarkably good for a television-based mini-series on a famous historical period.  Sure there is some 'dramatic' license here and there, but overall, the series is rather well done from a purely historical perspective (no surprise given the production credits).

My only complaint is that they make Henry look a lot more decent, upstanding and clever than he perhaps really was.  He was a very typical medieval king, mostly concerned only for himself and his patrimony.  Personally, Henry VIII would not make my list of the top five best British monarchs.  He was way too self-centered and emotively reactive to be a good king.  He was a spendthrift, a mediocre administrator and didn't actually achieve much during his long reign.

Btw, Henry was indeed touted as an uncommonly handsome prince in his younger years.


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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 12:39:23 PM »

The people loved him though.  He had that charisma and the common touch, they could not get enough of him.  The people once ripped every piece of clothing from his body when he was walking and the public surrounded him. 

He was athletic and beautiful in his youth.  And talented. 

He was interested in having everything his way, but that quality maybe contributed to his revolutionising the church and so on, maybe a good thing.  The British love eccentricity...he may be a reason why.  He and his daughter had such a lot of front.  And wit.  The carried off things no one else would have, just by using charisma.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 07:59:08 AM »

For the most part, the series is remarkably good for a television-based mini-series on a famous historical period.  Sure there is some 'dramatic' license here and there, but overall, the series is rather well done from a purely historical perspective (no surprise given the production credits).

I'm glad to hear that.

That's what I was really curious about.

The thing I don't like is how randomly they move through time. I mean, litorally, in the span of 5 or 6 episodes he divorced Catherine, married Ann, had 3 kids (2 miscariages) and met Ms. Seymour.

You'd think it was a matter of days.

I just wish they put the year up every so often.

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My only complaint is that they make Henry look a lot more decent, upstanding and clever than he perhaps really was.  He was a very typical medieval king, mostly concerned only for himself and his patrimony.  Personally, Henry VIII would not make my list of the top five best British monarchs.  He was way too self-centered and emotively reactive to be a good king.  He was a spendthrift, a mediocre administrator and didn't actually achieve much during his long reign.

Oh, I think the series does a good job of making him out to be an arrogant, self-rightous (litorally) and capricious individual.

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Btw, Henry was indeed touted as an uncommonly handsome prince in his younger years.

I just wanna confess my love for the actress who plays Ann Boelin. I mean... WOW!

She's so... seductive. She was great.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 04:48:49 AM »

<shrugs>

I'm sorry but imo this series sucks. It's directed/written like  rock video. Historically it may be accurate but there is no historical feeling to it at all. Every scene you can smell the studio catering and hear the cell phones. Imo the purpose of this series is to show off a bunch of new dresses and cleavage each episode.

Compared to Rome or Deadwood this bites.

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 05:24:46 AM »

*BANG*

What's wrong with clevage?!?!

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I do see your point, though. It's done sexily and dramatically because if it was just about the politics, it'd be like West Wing all over again.

Plus, I think Rome had a MUCH bigger budget. I've been meaning to see if I can get that show OnDemand, but keep forgetting... and Westerns (even Deadwood) bore me to death...
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