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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 05:41:29 AM » |
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I will sleep comportably irrespective of whether Iran goes down the nuclear path or doesn't and so do you...fully aware of what Iran can do and can't do. Indeed what I would question in my conscience is the morality by which US engages herself in yet another attack on another country killing many more civillians and US soldiers in the process, coupled with yet more chaos and havoc and hatred of more people in the name of "War on Terror" for the sake of nuclear armed Israel. Again...today you are sleeping quite soundly. Israeli nukes do not affect your slumber today, you are not threatened by the knowledge of Israeli nukes or their far flung capabilities via long range missile nor aircraft. Iran changes the entire equation overnight the second she realizes a nuclear weapon. I do note now we're breaking off on some "morality by which the US engages herself" that makes me question your objectivity on this issue. That was a mighty quick jump to a random generalization. Speaking reality here. |
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2008, 12:01:06 PM » |
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Again, kactus doesn't care at all if Iran is involved in another war, get carpet bombed, and have thousands of death because they will be building nukes.
The only thing he cares about is the "morality of the US leading such attack". Go figure.
I mean it's totaly irresponsible to continue to be in favor of uranium enrichement and/or nuclear weapon programs in Iran, knowing that if they do that they will be a devastating air bombing campains upon them with absolute certainty.
I'm against the iranian nuclear program, not because I fear for the safety of Israel or UK, but because I fear for the safety of ordinary Iranian civilians.
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2008, 01:29:47 PM » |
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Again, kactus doesn't care at all if Iran is involved in another war, get carpet bombed, and have thousands of death because they will be building nukes.
The only thing he cares about is the "morality of the US leading such attack". Go figure.
I mean it's totaly irresponsible to continue to be in favor of uranium enrichement and/or nuclear weapon programs in Iran, knowing that if they do that they will be a devastating air bombing campains upon them with absolute certainty.
I'm against the iranian nuclear program, not because I fear for the safety of Israel or UK, but because I fear for the safety of ordinary Iranian civilians.
Almost ALL the Arab nations fear Irans expansionism in the Mid-East. An attempt by Iran to rule the region and its hegemony will not be quiet, it will result in the whole Mid-East at war. |
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 01:20:10 PM » |
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Again, kactus doesn't care at all if Iran is involved in another war, get carpet bombed, and have thousands of death because they will be building nukes.
The only thing he cares about is the "morality of the US leading such attack". Go figure.
I mean it's totaly irresponsible to continue to be in favor of uranium enrichement and/or nuclear weapon programs in Iran, knowing that if they do that they will be a devastating air bombing campains upon them with absolute certainty.
I'm against the iranian nuclear program, not because I fear for the safety of Israel or UK, but because I fear for the safety of ordinary Iranian civilians.
Almost ALL the Arab nations fear Irans expansionism in the Mid-East. An attempt by Iran to rule the region and its hegemony will not be quiet, it will result in the whole Mid-East at war. Yes. But ordinary Iranians should worrry too when they hear their president that "Iran won't retreat from one iota"... |
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 06:54:59 PM » |
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...today you are sleeping quite soundly. Israeli nukes do not affect your slumber today but Israeli walls and checkpoints and settlements and guns very much affect some people in this world. It's not about a Western burger-eater "sleeping quite soundly" in his mort-gaged house assured of the peaceful nature of the Israeli nukes. There are other people besides you in this world. An entire nation is systematically crippled by Israel's behaviour. I have more concern for people in refugee camps than for your sound sleep. Freddie prophesized: they will be a devastating air bombing campains upon them with absolute certainty. you used to argue the bombing would only affect nuclear sites and not touch even military objects. Iranian people have absolute certainty in America's humanistic nature, and are soundly sleeping in full knowledge that the US will never bomb innocent civilians. Only the centrifugues. |
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2008, 03:09:47 AM » |
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Only the centrifugues Only civilians work near the centrifuges. + I always said that such attack will involve the total destruction of their army, at least of all their airforce and naval fleet. |
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2008, 07:24:31 AM » |
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Only the centrifugues Only civilians work near the centrifuges. + I always said that such attack will involve the total destruction of their army, at least of all their airforce and naval fleet. It will be Israel that pulls the trigger (with the tacit approval of the U.S.), as they have the most to lose given Irans threat to "wipe the Israeli's off the map". |
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2008, 10:48:14 AM » |
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Terry wrote:
Almost ALL the Arab nations fear Irans expansionism in the Mid-East. An attempt by Iran to rule the region and its hegemony will not be quiet, it will result in the whole Mid-East at war.
This is absolutely true. Folks, Shiis and Sunnis, they hate each other. Most muslims are sunnis, but there are 80 million shiis in Iran and 10/15 millions in Irak.....Iran holding a nuclear weapon? Able to rule and to imposse its hegemony? Not at all folks.
IMO Amadineyad urgently requires a broad-spectrum B-52 antibiotic therapy and I'm confidence he's gonna feel better.
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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2008, 11:07:52 PM » |
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It will be Israel that pulls the trigger and the US who receives the bullet. Shiis and Sunnis, they hate each other urban myth of the western part-time news experts on everything. There are polls showing positive Arab attitudes toward Iranian nuclear program. You're always confusing Arab street and Arab palace. |
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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2008, 12:49:27 AM » |
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It will be Israel that pulls the trigger and the US who receives the bullet. Shiis and Sunnis, they hate each other urban myth of the western part-time news experts on everything. There are polls showing positive Arab attitudes toward Iranian nuclear program. You're always confusing Arab street and Arab palace. You are full of sheit Pisces, and you know it. Can't you do better as a MOSSAD agent?  |
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« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2008, 02:10:30 AM » |
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any thing else to declare, Terry, besides medical assessments of the forummers, the 4 000 year old tribal warfare, and the "mission-capable" Israel ??
I bet you weren't so attached to Israel before marriage. What do you want, - Judea and Samaria "redeemed", the Temple rebuilt, the Arabs cleansed, and the rabbis sorting people out to determine who deserves to marry and who doesn't? Heroic revolutionary vision/
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« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2008, 04:49:36 AM » |
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any thing else to declare, Terry, besides medical assessments of the forummers, the 4 000 year old tribal warfare, and the "mission-capable" Israel ??
I bet you weren't so attached to Israel before marriage. What do you want, - Judea and Samaria "redeemed", the Temple rebuilt, the Arabs cleansed, and the rabbis sorting people out to determine who deserves to marry and who doesn't? Heroic revolutionary vision/
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« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2008, 03:00:36 PM » |
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It will be Israel that pulls the trigger and the US who receives the bullet. Shiis and Sunnis, they hate each other urban myth of the western part-time news experts on everything. There are polls showing positive Arab attitudes toward Iranian nuclear program. You're always confusing Arab street and Arab palace. The arabs-of-the-street will all love the then new Iran as they will finaly have a nuclear master. They will have no choice thought. |
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2008, 09:39:45 AM » |
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but Israeli walls and checkpoints and settlements and guns very much affect some people in this world. Quite a few less than a nuclear Iran, Peis. Your opinions aside...not to mention your confusion about Israeli checkpoints and settlements...any nuclear Iran with the capability to train and improve technology with nuclear weaponry is an absolute disaster for the Middle Eastern world and especially Israel. Forget your refugee camps while you, btw, don't miss sleep either. Counting the bags under your eyes straining for the lack of sleep due to the inhuman suffering going on in Palestinian Refugee camps...are we? Whatever. What a pathetic attempt at the high ground as I piecemeal destroy your arguments. Please. It's not about a Western burger-eater "sleeping quite soundly" in his mort-gaged house assured of the peaceful nature of the Israeli nukes. There are other people besides you in this world. Oh yes it is. Is is about us and as a United States Citizen...with every concern for Israel and a nuclear Iran, it affects the entire world. The surging economies of India and China and South America demand oil to drive their economies' engines. The Straits of Hormuz carries an enormous amount of oil, Saudi Arabia(Iran's enemy) and its supplies comes under Iranian threat. The entire US Navy realizes a close strike can take a fleet out, we immediately must become ten times as aware....other people besides us....what? Too right there are other people, why not consider them in your argument rather than Palestinians. This planet relies on ME oil right now, thrives on it as a matter of fact. A nuclear Iran affects economies and immediately wrenches up the threat of war and the massive refugee camps it always results in...and yer tossin and turnin over Palestinian camps? Yeah. An entire nation is systematically crippled by Israel's behaviour. I have more concern for people in refugee camps than for your sound sleep. Counting the bags under your eyes straining for the lack of sleep due to the inhuman suffering going on in Palestinian Refugee camps...are we? Whatever. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2008, 09:51:23 AM » |
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...today you are sleeping quite soundly. Israeli nukes do not affect your slumber today but Israeli walls and checkpoints and settlements and guns very much affect some people in this world. It's not about a Western burger-eater "sleeping quite soundly" in his mort-gaged house assured of the peaceful nature of the Israeli nukes. There are other people besides you in this world. An entire nation is systematically crippled by Israel's behaviour. I have more concern for people in refugee camps than for your sound sleep. Freddie prophesized: they will be a devastating air bombing campains upon them with absolute certainty. you used to argue the bombing would only affect nuclear sites and not touch even military objects. Iranian people have absolute certainty in America's humanistic nature, and are soundly sleeping in full knowledge that the US will never bomb innocent civilians. Only the centrifugues. It will be Israel that pulls the trigger and the US who receives the bullet. Shiis and Sunnis, they hate each other urban myth of the western part-time news experts on everything. There are polls showing positive Arab attitudes toward Iranian nuclear program. You're always confusing Arab street and Arab palace. Arab populous doesn't have much leverage though, while Arab regime does...palace it is and palace is what opposes a nuclear Iran. Quietly, most Arab regimes will support a strike on Iran. |
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