President Obama and his A.G.

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2008, 02:29:32 PM »

whats funny is we would need two full quarters of negative growth meaning 6 months... Bush is out of office in 7 months...

If Obama/Clinton wins its their recession, and either ones solution will be to RAISE taxes... heh


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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2008, 03:36:52 PM »

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Semantics aside wouldn't you agree that the economy is in some deep do-do and shows no sign of improvement?

I absolutely agree the economy is in a down cycle. No question.

If Mr. Paulson is to be believe, he thinks the worst could be behind us. That remains to be seen.

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If Obama/Clinton wins its their recession, and either ones solution will be to RAISE taxes... heh

If we were to slip into a recession, it would be no more theirs than the one in March 2001, IMO. That is unfair to pin a recession on one and not another.


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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2008, 06:24:34 PM »

Quote from: Irwin on May 16, 2008, 10:27:32 AM

Hold on, there.

1) He wasn't the top of the ticket in 2004. The top of the ticket was a Massachusetts Dem in a very red state, when Bush was still the Godking of Republicans.
2) "Ambulance chaser mentality" is an empty slogan, not a reason. You have to a) demonstrate said mentality and b) show that said mentality is known enough and effective enough as an anti-Edwards tool. Since that was not much of a factor in 2004, nor this year when he beat Hillary in Iowa, I think you are projecting your personal hatred of him on America.
3) A $400 hair cut? That's it. You really think that is enough fuel to fire the rage against Edwards? You got anything with legs?

It's not ME you have to convince. It's the millions of people who are quickly swayed by small, undetailed issues like the ones I mentioned. I mean, look at what little Bush was running on in 2004...

"Stay the Course"

"Cut and Run"

"Look at me in this flight suit"

Sadly, it doesn't take much.

Quote from: OswaldTheOsprey on May 16, 2008, 10:11:44 AM

Hagel would be an excellent pick, IMHO. Of course there has also been talk of McCain picking Lieberman. If both of those happened things would really be interesting! Wink

Personally, picking Lieberman would be a mistake.

The ticket would be a pair of old, white people... Just what the Republicans DON'T want going into a fight with a black guy. McCain has to pick a younger guy or they don't have a shot.

I figure Romney is at the top of whatever list they are making...

... who cares how much they hate eachother.


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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2008, 08:11:27 PM »

I wouldn't doubt Edwards would be the Attorny General and of course Hillary as his vice president. Those three together would definately re-unite the party. Personally I'd like to see a Obama/ Ron Paul ticket. Hey I can dream can't I?


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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2008, 08:14:51 PM »

Quote from: And Justice For All on May 16, 2008, 08:11:27 PM

Would be awesome.

Politically speaking, I think Edwards would be a good VP for him. Snag the female vote right back.


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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2008, 08:23:19 PM »

Quote from: Reaganite on May 16, 2008, 02:29:32 PM

No kidding? Raising taxes is a given after the enormous debt this last administration has created not to mention weakning the dollar. I don't care if you had Ronald Reagan in office, he would have to raise taxes. Remember Bush Senior? He tried to be Ronald Reagan 2 and said "no new taxes". Guess what he had no choice but to raise them and it cost him re-election.


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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2008, 08:29:21 PM »

Quote from: And Justice For All on May 16, 2008, 08:11:27 PM

I'm dreaming with ya'...

... but they're just too incompatable on every major issue (abortion, foreign relations, health care, education, etc.).

But it would be neat.


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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2008, 11:51:50 AM »

Quote from: Abraxas on May 16, 2008, 06:24:34 PM

Quote from: Irwin on May 16, 2008, 10:27:32 AM

It's not ME you have to convince. It's the millions of people who are quickly swayed by small, undetailed issues like the ones I mentioned. I mean, look at what little Bush was running on in 2004...

And my point is you haven't demonstrated things like "ambulance chaser mentality" have any legs. Certainly it didn't in Iowa when he beat Hillary. It wasn't in any ads when he ran with Kerry. Bush got a DUI, was a drunk and very probably was a cokehead. None of those things kept him from office because they didn't stick. Just because a thing can be said, doesn't mean they are top in the mind of voters. What you point out with Edwards is pretty thin stuff to hang an attack campaign on.


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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2008, 11:57:48 AM »

Quote from: Irwin on May 21, 2008, 11:51:50 AM

And my point is you haven't demonstrated things like "ambulance chaser mentality" have any legs.

The Republicans won't have to. They just have to say it.

Just like the Democrats will fevorishly attach McCain to Bush on EVERYTHING despite their relative differences... but people won't look into it enough to make an educated choice.

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Certainly it didn't in Iowa when he beat Hillary. It wasn't in any ads when he ran with Kerry. Bush got a DUI, was a drunk and very probably was a cokehead. None of those things kept him from office because they didn't stick. Just because a thing can be said, doesn't mean they are top in the mind of voters. What you point out with Edwards is pretty thin stuff to hang an attack campaign on.

I agree, its flimsy and pathetic... but it doesn't mean it won't hurt.

Just wait till we start hearing from the Democrats how old McCain is.


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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2008, 07:56:31 AM »

Quote from: Abraxas on May 21, 2008, 11:57:48 AM

Quote from: Irwin on May 21, 2008, 11:51:50 AM

And my point is you haven't demonstrated things like "ambulance chaser mentality" have any legs.

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I agree, its flimsy and pathetic... but it doesn't mean it won't hurt.

Just wait till we start hearing from the Democrats how old McCain is.

You are so frustrating.

NO, THEY DO NOT JUST HAVE TO SAY IT.

They have to SELL it.

People have to BUY it.

The things you mentioned ARE NOT BEING BOUGHT.

Just like Bush's DUI, coke problems and slacking in the Coast Guard. It is not enough to SAY, you have to show that it will STICK. So far I see no evidence that what you mention will STICK.


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