Thanks for the video JPN. Dumb ass idiot is exactly the right word to describe Kevin James. Chris certainly put him into his place. Serves him damn right. God bless us all if more idiots like him draw superficiall parallels in the history.

Mathews smelled a bushbot talking point memo, dittohead and called him on it. He was dead nuts on, the imbecile had no idea what he was talking about. Mathews is a well read history buff and he can't stand it when pinheads like this refer to the past without knowledge of it. Quite amusing.

While tripping to throw out insults, I think the point you were trying to make was lost.

 A little over the top Irwin. New rule is not ignorant or stupid  and has always been a gentleman here. He may be misinformed, stubbornly pigheaded and maniacally vengeful...but ignorant?...  nah.

I calls 'em as I sees 'em: his is a willfull failure to see basic knowledge. He seems unable to distinguish action movies from the realities on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and the history of terrorism.

Been there, done that, know the realities. Knew them back before 2003. That's why I opposed the invasion. The folks on the ground in Iraq had to learn them first hand. You do a lot of posing but you have not offered one single argument against fighting terror with EVERY tool available.

1) Saddam was a check on Iran.
2) The WMD claim was weak at best.
3) The claim that Saddam and Islamic Fundamentalists would team up was laughable. Fundimentalists despised Saddam, who murdered them mercilessly.
4) A war in the heart of the Middle East was exactly what OBL wanted. It was the only thing that could turn his well-funded campaign of elites into a global movement. (He thought this might happen in Afghanistan. It didn't because reasons I can go into at another time. Then Bush gave him the gift of Iraq.)
5) Saddam wasn't a threat to us, or Israel, he was a man who lived in terror of an Iranian invasion. Period.
6) George Bush Sr. avoided invading Iraq for the same reason I opposed it. I knew before it all started that we would be EXACTLY in this place here and now.

The reasons for opposing could fill volumes. Oh, yeah, I know guys like you try to get around facts by saying things like, 'oh, you would have been against it any way' or 'you just opposed Iraq because you hated bush.' So: I supported action in Kosovo, Bosnia and afghanistan. NOT Iraq.

I don't really care. Too many folks like you went around in those days with your action movie ideas of a war and total ignorance of terrorism. You and your neocon buddies sneered at the sane folks who looked at the facts and used reason. You used the kind of macho dogma you throw around in this post, like how we supposedly have only a choice between "appeasement" and dropping bombs. I'm not "insulting you by saying you try to get around facts, I'm stating a fact. You do. You are trying to get around how troops in Afghanistan and Iraq are now NEGOTIATING with terrorists by

a) suddenly saying that terrorists and insurgents are different, when they use the same tactics.
b) throwing out the word Osama, as if saying we can't talk with him so all talk is useless.
c) talking about "realities" as if you are the one with something to teach me. No, I saw the disaster BEFORE it came and I'm not still stuck on trying to rationalize it like you.

Glad you decided to learn something about terrorism. Should have done it years ago, when you were too busy sneering at liberals and kissing Bush's ass.