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« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2007, 06:42:47 AM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.
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« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2007, 08:39:27 AM »

Jena, LA is another good reason for Eugenics.

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« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2007, 08:55:02 AM »

There'll be more details from this case sooner or later I'm sure of it.

Oh, and reading the article I picked up something else:

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Why, they ask, wasn't the noose incident ever reported to police? (A report might have triggered a hate-crime investigation, although federal authorities rarely go after juveniles in such cases.) And when whites and blacks tangled several times before the Jena Six episode, why did authorities charge the whites with misdemeanors -- or not at all -- while charging blacks with felonies?

That raises another eyebrow don't ya think?

what exactly did the white kids do that got them misdemeanors?
did they beat a black kid and kick and stomp him AFTER he was out cold? Roll Eyes

Don't know, maybe it might have something to do with those nooses in the white tree....

ok smart ass you said several times  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2007, 08:58:31 AM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.

did you forget about totinos post?

_The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.
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« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2007, 11:08:43 AM »

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2. The "white tree", the nooses and the white party may have lead upto the act but there has been no evidence put forward that the kid being beaten was responcilbe and EVEN IF HE WAS, it would still be a crime for 6 people to jump him.

Yeah, it would be a crime. It would also be a crime to hang nooses on a tree which implies hanging a black man. Why is that so difficult to understand?

And exactly what crime would that be McFrank?

Threatening to lynch people. I could go pick up a picture from the 30's with a black man being lynched and a group of white people surrounding him, think of what kind of history centers around black people and nooses in trees.

There was a threat? OK I will grant you that there was an IMPLIED threat in the nooses but as far as I know, there is no crime in that. Well unless LA. has a hate crime law and I kind of dount that. Its an expression of free speech, the same as burning a flag would be. I find both to be reprehensible, but NOT illegal.
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« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2007, 02:59:41 PM »

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2. The "white tree", the nooses and the white party may have lead upto the act but there has been no evidence put forward that the kid being beaten was responcilbe and EVEN IF HE WAS, it would still be a crime for 6 people to jump him.

Yeah, it would be a crime. It would also be a crime to hang nooses on a tree which implies hanging a black man. Why is that so difficult to understand?

And exactly what crime would that be McFrank?

Threatening to lynch people. I could go pick up a picture from the 30's with a black man being lynched and a group of white people surrounding him, think of what kind of history centers around black people and nooses in trees.

There was a threat? OK I will grant you that there was an IMPLIED threat in the nooses but as far as I know, there is no crime in that. Well unless LA. has a hate crime law and I kind of dount that. Its an expression of free speech, the same as burning a flag would be. I find both to be reprehensible, but NOT illegal.

I'm a fan of free speech too, but I don't think free speech covers making threats, direct or implied.
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« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2007, 04:06:14 PM »

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2. The "white tree", the nooses and the white party may have lead upto the act but there has been no evidence put forward that the kid being beaten was responcilbe and EVEN IF HE WAS, it would still be a crime for 6 people to jump him.

Yeah, it would be a crime. It would also be a crime to hang nooses on a tree which implies hanging a black man. Why is that so difficult to understand?

And exactly what crime would that be McFrank?

Threatening to lynch people. I could go pick up a picture from the 30's with a black man being lynched and a group of white people surrounding him, think of what kind of history centers around black people and nooses in trees.

There was a threat? OK I will grant you that there was an IMPLIED threat in the nooses but as far as I know, there is no crime in that. Well unless LA. has a hate crime law and I kind of dount that. Its an expression of free speech, the same as burning a flag would be. I find both to be reprehensible, but NOT illegal.

They defaced public property. Free speech is one thing, but you're not allowed to express that speech by plastering it on or tying it to public property. The facts that the speech was a threat (joke or not, it doesn't matter) and that the public property was a school warrant this case being a priority.

I'm not saying they should be put in jail for it. I think a misdemeanor charge accompanied by restitution, a fine, probation and community service is appropriate. The same as they would give any common vandal.



BTW, I'm also opposed to criminalizing flag burning. It would be foolish however, if municipal fire codes were written in such a way that allowed the un-permitted burning of large objects *including textiles* in  public areas. That's just asking to drive the city's insurance premiums up.
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« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2007, 05:21:26 PM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.

did you forget about totinos post?

_The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.


Something about that doesn't seem right. It's been almost a year since this whole thing started, so if the teachers and school staff knew all students sat under the tree, why did it take until just now for that to be known?
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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2007, 05:39:56 PM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.

did you forget about totinos post?

_The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.


Something about that doesn't seem right. It's been almost a year since this whole thing started, so if the teachers and school staff knew all students sat under the tree, why did it take until just now for that to be known?
It didn't take until now to be "known". The reality is the media reported it incorrectly, so now that you have your misconceptions. That's nothing new...

The media is going on and on and on about the tree being the center piece to the issue, when in reality a lawyer from the U.S. Justice Department said the noose incident doesn't relate to the beating.
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« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2007, 05:55:15 PM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.

did you forget about totinos post?

_The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.


Something about that doesn't seem right. It's been almost a year since this whole thing started, so if the teachers and school staff knew all students sat under the tree, why did it take until just now for that to be known?
It didn't take until now to be "known". The reality is the media reported it incorrectly, so now that you have your misconceptions. That's nothing new...

The media is going on and on and on about the tree being the center piece to the issue, when in reality a lawyer from the U.S. Justice Department said the noose incident doesn't relate to the beating.

Well okay, that makes sense, it's not like our media is flawless anyway. Still there's some pieces to the puzzle in this situation that don't fit.
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« Reply #100 on: September 25, 2007, 06:23:50 PM »

To anyone who would deny that any aspect in this case was NOT racily motivated and racily charged...you sound like Ahmadinejad denying that there was a Holocaust.
Nice.  Throw the Holocaust in there.  Way to go.  Wanna call them Hitler while you are at it? 

They are Hitlers. (I'm sorry Dude, I don't really mean that but I just had to take that shot Cool

As for anyone else who doesn't think racism is involved, just ask yourselves why would there be a "white tree" on school grounds in the first place?

You know something else? I'm beginning to think the whole notion of him having a concussion was just made up.

I'm not in medical science or anything but as I look through a list of post-concussion symptoms I'm thinking that Barker would've experienced most, if not all of them since the fight.

did you forget about totinos post?

_The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.


Something about that doesn't seem right. It's been almost a year since this whole thing started, so if the teachers and school staff knew all students sat under the tree, why did it take until just now for that to be known?

because it would hinder the medias big story
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