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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2007, 08:41:13 PM » |
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Examples, please? Please include a few examples of Fox trashing Bush in 2000 and or 2004.
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2007, 04:40:00 AM » |
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It was NYT reporter Katharine Seelye who trashed Gore with lies about how he supposedly claimed to have discovered the the Love Canal disaster, and it the NYT that began the whole "Gore exaggerates" meme that was itself an exaggeration--or, to be more accurate, a lie. LOL!!! If you are looking for a sympathetic ear about journalists being tough on a politician, you're barking up the wrong tree. The media has been SO hard on Bush they they have close to half of America convinced our government pulled off 9/11. You've got lies (exaggerations about Love Canal) and then damned lies. |
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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2007, 06:46:29 AM » |
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Markedly conservative outlets have publicly and stridently differed with GWB on immigration and spending. Gingrich, Foley, Livingston, Guiliani have all taken hits from those sources on their personal behavior. Stevens is Lampooned routinely.
The loudest bellows about fox news seem to come from people who confuse their news coverage with other programming, much the way people who don't read the WSJ assume its news coverage reflects its editorial page.
As to comparisons with the NYT and Fox, I'd say the differences are many. The NYT is a leader of older media and is controlled by an ideologue who doesn't mind taking shots at dems. Who is the conservative voice from the NYT? Brookes? Sapphire? Each is pretty tepid.
Fox News is run by a partisan in much the same sense that Chris Matthews and Tim Russert are partisans. FN is an upstart in a field of old media, and is part of a channel that presents content people watch not because it only shows one view, but because it shows controversy. I occassionally catch the last part of Hume's show that has commentary from Kondrake, Liasson and Williams.
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« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2007, 04:04:19 PM » |
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Examples, please? Please include a few examples of Fox trashing Bush in 2000 and or 2004.
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gladley here one from you favroite host http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250649,00.html |
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« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2007, 04:33:08 PM » |
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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2007, 05:48:48 PM » |
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With due respect, please don't post anything from 'media matters.' They've already been caught this week in a blatant lie. They have no credibility.
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2007, 06:05:51 PM » |
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But you just did!!
And what specifically did Media Matters lie about?
And if one lie or mistake is enough to discredit some one than why does any right winger have any credibility at all. Most have made numerous mistakes and/or lied plenty. Rather was fired for one "mistake". I listen to conservative pundits get their facts wrong over and over every single day. None of them are ever fired no matter how misleading they are being.
Oh.. that's right... If your a conservative you don't have to live up to this standard. Its no wonder you right wingers are always so misinformed.
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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2007, 06:12:55 PM » |
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And what specifically did Media Matters lie about? The matter about Bill O'Reilly was a lie and CNN picked up on it and repeated the lie. ps: I have tolerance for lying from anyone |
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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2007, 06:38:46 PM » |
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Wow. What a ringing denunciation of our fearless leaders. What a smear job done against Bush. I had to read it twice to find the brief paragraph sentence half-sentence in which O'Reilly takes time out from trashing his liberal foes to admit what everyone already knows--that Bush's post-war planning was...what was O'Reilly's word? Oh yes, "poor." Bush's post-war planning was "poor." Not "devastating". Not "criminally negligent". "Poor". Wow. That really compares with the non-stop trashing of Gore during the 2000 campaign by NYT reporters determined to spin a lie about Gore supposedly exaggerating about things, when in fact he did nothing of the kind. As my linked article explains in detail--Neue's shocked protests notwithstanding. |
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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2007, 06:47:52 PM » |
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It was NYT reporter Katharine Seelye who trashed Gore with lies about how he supposedly claimed to have discovered the the Love Canal disaster, and it the NYT that began the whole "Gore exaggerates" meme that was itself an exaggeration--or, to be more accurate, a lie. LOL!!! If you are looking for a sympathetic ear about journalists being tough on a politician, you're barking up the wrong tree. No barking here. I was just pointing out a much under-appreciated fact. The media has been SO hard on Bush they they have close to half of America convinced our government pulled off 9/11. True. After he got us stuck in a quagmire costing us enormous treasure and worse, enormous pain and suffering by hundreds of thousands of people and a geopolitical disaster causing calamitous damage to America's global standing; and after he proved himself to be utterly incapable of running a bureaucracy which the people of New Orleans found out to their horror; and after all his promised of 2000 about keeping the budget balanced and being "a uniter, not a divider"; and after he proved that he hadn't a clue about what democracy and our Constitutional division of powers was all about; and after the American public turned against this inept little man; then, finally, the press started to stop giving him every benefit of the doubt. Congratulations, mainstream media. You finally have come to grips with the fact that we are living under the worst president in our history. Thanks, in no small part, to you. What's the saying? Small thanks for small favors. |
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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2007, 07:31:00 PM » |
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Wow. What a ringing denunciation of our fearless leaders. What a smear job done against Bush. I had to read it twice to find the brief paragraph sentence half-sentence in which O'Reilly takes time out from trashing his liberal foes to admit what everyone already knows--that Bush's post-war planning was...what was O'Reilly's word? Oh yes, "poor." Bush's post-war planning was "poor." Not "devastating". Not "criminally negligent". "Poor". Wow. That really compares with the non-stop trashing of Gore during the 2000 campaign by NYT reporters determined to spin a lie about Gore supposedly exaggerating about things, when in fact he did nothing of the kind. As my linked article explains in detail--Neue's shocked protests notwithstanding. i just posted the 1st google i found about foxnews not always agreeing with the president. that is what you asked for and now its not good enough. i shouldnt have wasted my time to begin with. just keep your faith with people like news man Dan and nothing will ever change in your happy lil world. |
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2007, 08:17:54 PM » |
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And what specifically did Media Matters lie about? The matter about Bill O'Reilly was a lie and CNN picked up on it and repeated the lie. ps: I have tolerance for lying from anyone There is no lie. Bill made some racist comments and Media Matters reported it. And it wasn't out of context like O'liely wants you to believe. Actually Bill is the liar. I heard it myself on the radio today. He actually edited himself and left out his racist comments when he attempted to prove he wasn't being racist! |
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2007, 08:20:57 PM » |
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And what specifically did Media Matters lie about? The matter about Bill O'Reilly was a lie and CNN picked up on it and repeated the lie. ps: I have tolerance for lying from anyone There is no lie. Bill made some racist comments and Media Matters reported it. And it wasn't out of context like O'liely wants you to believe. Actually Bill is the liar. I heard it myself on the radio today. He actually edited himself and left out his racist comments when he attempted to prove he wasn't being racist! You're an idiot. I don't even need to provide backup, because anyone who actually listens to the legit clip can see that. |
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2007, 09:04:49 PM » |
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I love this comment on the O'Reilly broo-haha from Josh Marshall: O'Reilly: Black People Just Don't Understand
I'll give ABC some real credit for this headline of their new story on the firestorm in response to Bill O'Reilly's latest racist outburst: "O'Reilly: Blacks Suprisingly Civilized."
I usually don't go in much for working the O'Reilly front. But in this case the comedic value of this racist dork is just too much to pass up.
O'Reilly says that only people looking to be offended could have been offended by his comments.
"If you listened to the full hour, it was a criticism of racism on the part of white Americans who are ignorant of the fact that there is no difference between white and black anymore," O'Reilly told the AP. In other words, I guess, it was criticism of people like Bill O'Reilly, which is sort of broad-minded of him.
It's also good of him to note that blacks aren't any different from whites like he apparently thinks they were before the 1990s or something. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/054321.php"Racist dork". Yeah, that about captures O'Reilly, who, characteristically of those who are blinded to their own staggering smallness, believes himself to be an expansive intellect of staggering tolerance and open-mindedness. Nope. Just a dork. A racist dork. |
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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2007, 09:10:41 PM » |
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There is no lie. Bill made some racist comments and Media Matters reported it. And it wasn't out of context like O'liely wants you to believe. Actually Bill is the liar. I heard it myself on the radio today. He actually edited himself and left out his racist comments when he attempted to prove he wasn't being racist!
You're an idiot. I don't even need to provide backup, because anyone who actually listens to the legit clip can see that. The "legit" clip contains racist comments. If you can't recognize them then you are the idiot. Like this comment: I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. And you don't need to provide backup or you CAN'T provide backup? My guess is that its the latter. But feel free to prove me wrong. Betcha can't  |
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