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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8Obama's church seems bent on sinking him. How many Hillary supporters turn on Obama for all of this mocking? How many white people will turn from Obama because they (we) are tired of the mocking? The sad part is, Obama isn't asking for this.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 06:50:45 AM » |
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lol...
The obama campaign has to deal with one of his gaffes a day and or one of these issues.
Do you really think the RNC and the state run rupublicans parties are going to go as easy on Obama as Clinton has over the last month?
This election is going to be a blood bath and whoever wins is going to be as polarizing, if not more then GWB.
Its sorta Ironic that Obama will NEED clinton to get out and campaign for him and get the whities voting...
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 07:40:03 AM » |
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Let's not forget Hagee and Parsley on the other side of the street. Clerics should stay out of politics-period.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 07:44:48 AM » |
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Neither have been called a father figure by McCain.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 08:14:36 AM » |
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I've never heard cursing from a pulpit in my life. These people are off the chain...
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 08:53:44 AM » |
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Neither have been called a father figure by McCain.
He accepted and then had to reject their endorsements. McCain is probably older than them anyway so there goes the father figure analogy. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 08:58:00 AM » |
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I've never heard cursing from a pulpit in my life. These people are off the chain...
What is more off the chain-cursing from the pulpit or politics from the pulpit? This nation needs to take a tight and hard rein over clergy (black, white, Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, right or left) where it comes to politics. Theology should be left alone-but not politics. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 09:03:24 AM » |
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8Obama's church seems bent on sinking him. How many Hillary supporters turn on Obama for all of this mocking? How many white people will turn from Obama because they (we) are tired of the mocking? The sad part is, Obama isn't asking for this. Means nothing. People are over it. In fact the more wacky pastors, the better. Now McCain has two and Obama has two and people will just say, "I'm tired of it. Who cares?" To demonstrate how the Pastor thing hasn't worked as an attack ad. Recently there was a special election in Mississippi... While Republicans faced a renewed crisis of confidence Tuesday, Democrats celebrated what they said was another failed GOP angle of attack. "These are districts we have no business playing in," said Anzalone, who polled for Democratic winners in both Louisiana and Mississippi. "In ten days, you have two candidates who were attacked at high levels with [Barack] Obama and [the Rev. Jeremiah] Wright, and Nancy Pelosi and all that, and in neither place it worked." National Republicans ran advertisements slamming Childers for associating with Obama, forcing the conservative Democrat to respond with an advertisement asserting he had never met the likely Democratic presidential nominee.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.htmlAnd he still won by 8 points. In a conservative white district in MISSiSSiPPi. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 09:06:22 AM » |
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McCain is probably older than them anyway so there goes the father figure analogy.  |
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 10:13:59 AM » |
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8Obama's church seems bent on sinking him. How many Hillary supporters turn on Obama for all of this mocking? How many white people will turn from Obama because they (we) are tired of the mocking? The sad part is, Obama isn't asking for this. Means nothing. People are over it. In fact the more wacky pastors, the better. Now McCain has two and Obama has two and people will just say, "I'm tired of it. Who cares?" To demonstrate how the Pastor thing hasn't worked as an attack ad. Recently there was a special election in Mississippi... While Republicans faced a renewed crisis of confidence Tuesday, Democrats celebrated what they said was another failed GOP angle of attack. "These are districts we have no business playing in," said Anzalone, who polled for Democratic winners in both Louisiana and Mississippi. "In ten days, you have two candidates who were attacked at high levels with [Barack] Obama and [the Rev. Jeremiah] Wright, and Nancy Pelosi and all that, and in neither place it worked." National Republicans ran advertisements slamming Childers for associating with Obama, forcing the conservative Democrat to respond with an advertisement asserting he had never met the likely Democratic presidential nominee.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/gop_stunned_by_loss_in_mississ.htmlAnd he still won by 8 points. In a conservative white district in MISSiSSiPPi. The biggest problem with the wacky pastors is their reflecting on serious religion. The Elmer Gantrys are much better known than the Dorothy Days. OswaldTheOsprey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Day |
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 10:26:29 AM » |
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forcing the conservative Democrat to respond with an advertisement asserting he had never met the likely Democratic presidential nominee. Now if you can get Obama to run as a 'conservative Democrat' and claim he'd never met himself, you might have something. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 12:16:56 PM » |
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forcing the conservative Democrat to respond with an advertisement asserting he had never met the likely Democratic presidential nominee. Now if you can get Obama to run as a 'conservative Democrat' and claim he'd never met himself, you might have something. Try and take your Republican filter off for two seconds, okay? Try to pay attention. READ THE ARTICLE. The "damn liberals" aren't making up the looming disaster, the Republican Party sees it. You've lost three special elections in a ROW. The first two, the excuse spinners lived in denial. The Republican party threw EVERYTHING into winning in Mississippi. THEY made the case that this was a MUST win, if they were to believe they could win in November. THEY LOST BY 8 POINTS. Are you trying to plead that the Dem won because he was the most conservative candidate? WAKE UP!!! Now here is the point: THEY TRIED TO SMEAR THE DEM WITH LIBERAL OBAMA AND RACIST WRIGHT. THEY STILL FAILED. (Did I mention, 8 points?) The preacher thing has no legs. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 12:30:12 PM » |
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Are you trying to plead that the Dem won because he was the most conservative candidate? WAKE UP!!!
No. I thought it was (somewhat) common knowledge that Childers is a conservative Democrat. The Republicans TRIED to paint him as a liberal, knowing that was a losing position. Childers ran away from it claiming to have, what, never met Obama? That will be a defense that will be rather difficult for Obama. How will Obama do with the 'Bubba' vote, do you think? Because Childers already successfully defined himself as a pro-life, pro-gun conservative Democrat, the GOP attacks bounced off him. Conservative Democratic voters didn’t believe the generic Republican attacks that Childers was a liberal.
To one smart Mississippian, the special election is easy to explain: “Travis Childers got the Bubba vote. He’s more like Bubba than is Davis, who hails from the Memphis suburbs.”
There is a lot more to talk about, including the nature, effectiveness and timing of the GOP ads; the fundamental appeal of the candidates; and Vice President Cheney’s visit to the district for Davis. But I’ve run out of space. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/mississippi_special_why_childe.html |
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2008, 12:45:48 PM » |
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Are you trying to plead that the Dem won because he was the most conservative candidate? WAKE UP!!!
No. I thought it was (somewhat) common knowledge that Childers is a conservative Democrat. The Republicans TRIED to paint him as a liberal, knowing that was a losing position. Childers ran away from it claiming to have, what, never met Obama? That will be a defense that will be rather difficult for Obama. How will Obama do with the 'Bubba' vote, do you think? Because Childers already successfully defined himself as a pro-life, pro-gun conservative Democrat, the GOP attacks bounced off him. Conservative Democratic voters didn’t believe the generic Republican attacks that Childers was a liberal.
To one smart Mississippian, the special election is easy to explain: “Travis Childers got the Bubba vote. He’s more like Bubba than is Davis, who hails from the Memphis suburbs.”
There is a lot more to talk about, including the nature, effectiveness and timing of the GOP ads; the fundamental appeal of the candidates; and Vice President Cheney’s visit to the district for Davis. But I’ve run out of space. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/mississippi_special_why_childe.htmlOffer all the spin and excuses, and live in all the denial you want, the Obama/Wright attacks didn't work. Not in Mississippi and not in Louisiana. Take you partisan hat off, buddy, that's the point here. In the gen they will fall flat. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2008, 12:51:46 PM » |
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Offer all the spin and excuses, and live in all the denial you want, the Obama/Wright attacks didn't work. Not in Mississippi and not in Louisiana. Take you partisan hat off, buddy, that's the point here. In the gen they will fall flat. You are absolutely right ... the Republicans tried to paint him as a liberal. That didn't work because, apparently, he's NOT a liberal. How does that effect the ability of the Republicans to paint Obama as a liberal? |
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