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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 10:24:23 AM »

take 30% of all ss contributions and invest in an S&P 500 fund..

Remove Hurricane Response from the budget as it should be the States responsibility not the federal governments.
Get rid of Housing and Urban Development
Get rid of foreign aid we should not be sending billions to Russia and others when there is no NEED to do it.
Get rid of department of education (it is a state issue)
Cut defense budget by 20% by DECREASING the amount of money wasted... not decreasing troop levels.
Get rid of department of agriculture. (State issue)
Get rid of dept of health and human services (state issue)
Get rid of dept of labor (state issue)
Reduce treasury costs by 40% by ending the manufacture and distribution of pennies, nickels. (It costs 6 cents to make a penny)
Decrease homeland security budget by 20%... So much waste.
Dump food stamp program (state Issue)
Dump farm aid (state Issue)
Dump federal welfare (state Issue)
FORBID WHOLESALE ANY AND ALL EARMARKS!!
Cut all federal staff by 10% over 3 years. 
Senate and house members each cut staff by 40%. (Its insane we pay people as FT consultants that work on never ending elections)

EVERY AGENCY that survives my presidency will be required to cut their budgets by 20%... of the director will be replaced.   It’s easy to cut spending...

In a real company when you bring in less then you make you don’t simply raise prices... you cut spending...

The problem with all government is they have a free source of income and think that the people will continue to just give it money year after year regardless of the results.

I think we are on the verge of a revolution in this country where will throw off the yoke of oppression called the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

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or we could just raise taxes year after year and hope no one notices...
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 11:03:31 AM »

I'll only choose this one of the long list of incorrect assumptions because I am one of those now retired House staff and have
some understanding of the law related to campaign work and other labor provided by Congressional staff and/or all Federal
staff.  Federal law prohibits work on campaigns. Most members of Congress allocate funds for hiring staff to either research and
review legislation or to provide constituent service.  Campaign work is paid for by campaign funds while office staff in both the
D.C. and District offices are paid as civil service federal employees as political appointees. Members have control of their budget
allotments and some spend different amounts on the numbers of staff.  Federal political appointees pay into retirement as do
Members of Congress. FERS has been the civil service retirement program since in the middle 1980's as well as into a choice for
medical benefit coverage. 

Once more on this single issue, Reaganite knows little of which he speaks. In fact it was the issue of using Federal staff for the
purpose of other than Federal work, that took down former Speaker Jim Wright.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 11:39:38 AM »

lol.. Now I understand why you are a moron.. You worked in the house.  What house member did you work for? I would bet a democrat.

The staff members work on the RELECTION by driving meetings and policy to effect the NEXT election.  I know that capaigns have to pay for thier campaign staff but the actual staff I PAY the salary for is in constant re-election mode. 

You being a HOUSE STAFFER makes it very clear to me why you think the way you do as you live of the blood and sweat of others.

I love your idiotic thinking that since you are a HOUSE STAFFER you know everything.. Its very liberal elitist lol...

So, who did you work for?



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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 12:55:34 PM »

well who did you work for for 20 years?  Also dont you feel guilty with a real pension and not SS to rely on?
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 04:01:06 PM »

LOL, I retired years ago, under FERS with a very small retirement because i didn't work 20 years, but then 20 under FERS is not a requirement. Yep, a CA Democrat who was among the Democratic leadership is also retired, but he did twenty and could have done as many as he chose. A very popular M.C.. considered a moderate.  No campaigner was I. One of those who provided those much demanded constituent services. One of those who acts on behalf of the M.C. to resolve problems constituents may encounter with Federal Agencies. In my case with primary assignments with the DOD, the VA for the county where I worked and the IRS for the District. And over the years some work with almost all agencies, though the INS was far the worst. In those days all files were stored in huge warehouse and none computerized.  I suspect it is still very difficult to discover who is documented or
who is not.  Fortunately before the days of Homeland Security which is a horrible joke. Any clue about the provision of constituent services? I suspect not.

But in one case you're correct, M.C.s who provide excellent constituent services tend to have pleased constituents and as a result through that process gain votes. I never discuss on an internet forum the name of that M.C.. Take it or leave it, but during the process of working hours daily at one time or another with almost all Federal agencies, one learns a lot about how they work or don't work.  It was fascinating work. I enjoyed it. It is very personally rewarding when one is able to though asking the correct questions in the process of Congressional Inquiry locate errors made by those such as the IRS, and believe me they make plenty, and as a result stop actions by Federal agencies where errors are made and
see the law is enforced while over the years saving millions for individuals who had no other way to deal with an intransigent agency other than to prove they were out of compliance with their own rules or the law that governs them.

Ever wonder what happens to the body of a U.S. citizen, who dies in a foreign country? Gets really complicated at times working on behalf of a constituent through the State Dept. in the process of having the remains or cremains returned.  Like a man who drowned off the coast of Spain and the on the way out of Spain, transiting through London, Bristish Airways lost the body.  Bet you didn't know Congressional staff can assist with such matters. Or then there are such simple services as those flags one can purchase that have flown over the capitol. People out there on the rood running them up and down all day that can be ordered though a M.C.'s staff for a nominal price.  Or sometimes it was just answering the phones all day to take messages from constituents regarding issues.  During my period of employment the greatest numbers that ever came in were about your namesakes involvement in Iran/Contra. Even more than those who expressed opinions related to Desert Storm, who btw were mostly negative in the office where I was employed.

Hey, you have a problem or want to discuss an issue or legislation just call your Housemember or Senator the number is in the telephone book.  You're paying for the service why not use it. An amazing number do. But  don't bother to bring a campaign contribution to a Federal office, it's against the law to take it.  And any volunteer campaign work done by staffers is not on Federal time and any costs of the participation are paid out of campaign funds not out of the taxpayers pocket unless they contributed to the campaign.  But rave on since your previous posts showed a lot of ignorance related to how the government you appear to dislike works or doesn't. 

BTW, no elitest am I just the spouse of a retired servicemember, a two tour vet from Nam, air crew in Nam on recips and later on the cargo heavies flying out of Travis AFB, CA. I was able to be educated as a divorced parent of four, sometimes while on AFDC, because of a lack of child support and with scholarships who later worked until Prop 13 caught the last hired first fired, as an instructor at a  local community college, then worked for the M.C. for a few years until a while after vesting for retirement.

More than you ever wanted to know or cared about I'm sure.  But when one is fortunate to live into their 70s, there are many valuable life experiences. Take it or leave it. Who really cares certainly not one who is so classless they refer to others as morons.  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 07:39:28 PM »

The Obama campaign needs to ask the question once used in a previous campaign, " Are you better off today than you were last year."
You got that right.


Gee, maybe an economic policy of all tax cuts all the time (like McCain now proposes) isn't such hot economic policy after all...ya reckon?

  • US STOCKS-Dow ends off 394 points on jobless rate, oil
  • Jobless rates jumps to 5.5 percent _ biggest rise since `86. In addition to being the first two-recession president since WWII, I imagine Bush will set a record for fewest jobs created per capita in an 8-year stretch.
  • Oil prices shot up by more than $11 a barrel and neared $140 a barrel

 Yep, ol' Cheney's energy task force sure took care of us, didn't it? Boy, good to know that such competent and sage policy makers are in charge.

Yep, boy, the Republicans sure know how to manage an economy.

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2008, 07:45:44 PM »

BTW, no elitest am I just the spouse of a retired servicemember, a two tour vet from Nam, air crew in Nam on recips and later on the cargo heavies flying out of Travis AFB, CA. I was able to be educated as a divorced parent of four, sometimes while on AFDC, because of a lack of child support and with scholarships who later worked until Prop 13 caught the last hired first fired, as an instructor at a  local community college, then worked for the M.C. for a few years until a while after vesting for retirement.

More than you ever wanted to know or cared about I'm sure.  But when one is fortunate to live into their 70s, there are many valuable life experiences. Take it or leave it. Who really cares certainly not one who is so classless they refer to others as morons.  Grin

Thanks for your post. It sounds like you've lived a full and very interesting life, with more ahead of you. Thanks for bringing some dignity to this forum. Lord knows it can use it...
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 02:45:57 AM »

Oh you know the media has nothing to do with opinions on whether we're better or worse off.

The US is doing fucking fantastic if you aren't some dumb shit that does nothing but spends money on their credit card and listen to CNN.

I've made great gains in even this market, just imagine what they'll be after the side-ways trend ends.

Ooo ahhh ahhh stupid monkey.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 06:02:09 AM »

Oh you know the media has nothing to do with opinions on whether we're better or worse off.

The US is doing fucking fantastic if you aren't some dumb shit that does nothing but spends money on their credit card and listen to CNN.

I've made great gains in even this market, just imagine what they'll be after the side-ways trend ends.

Ooo ahhh ahhh stupid monkey.

LOL. Yeah, it's all the media's fault! The "liberal media" is hiding the fact that the economy is really booming! There's a chicken in every pot, but we don't know it because the "liberal media" is hiding that fact from us!
Meanwhile CharlesMartel goes on about how Bush is a "great" president.

One of the reasons I like to read political forums is because of the glimpses one can get of the truly twisted conservative mind.
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 07:42:55 AM »

There's not a whole lot of love for Obama on Wall Street.....

"The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion. And tax hikes on the rich won't pay for it. It's the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth. This isn't free enterprise. It's old-fashioned-liberal tax, and spend, and regulate. It's plain ol' big government. The only people who will benefit are the central planners in Washington."

Obama would like voters to believe that he's the second coming of JFK. But with his unbelievable spending and new-government-agency proposals, he's looking more like Jimmy Carter. His is a "Grow the Government Bureaucracy Plan," and it's totally at odds with investment and business.

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This is bad news for anyone with a 401K retirement fund.
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 02:03:58 PM »

The last think America is going to fall for is lectures of fiscal responsibility from Republicans.

Sheesh.

Hey Patton, did you see my link on The New G.I. Bill thread (last post on the thread)? It's by a combat historian on Omaha Beach. Pretty amazing. By the way, what's your take on the new G.I. Bill?
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2008, 02:15:19 PM »

I managed just fine with the Montgomery Bill.....sure I'm for more benefits....but there's a hell of alot more I find important, and it's certainly not a "show stopper".........
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2008, 03:43:35 PM »

Here ya go JPN, LOL, their off and running with the the RNC posting this pure crap about Obama and his horrible intent to raise taxes most especially on all those middle class people
are are those who will suffer as the capitol gains tax is raised. I apologize for putting this stuff forward, but only to show how ridiculous it really is.  LOL, you would think the more
than infamous Novak who has with his multi-millions in investments railed for years about the horrible capitol gains tax.  Somehow, it seems a bit disingenuous, but what is new, to
assume the middle class, the ones who pay the lions share of their income in taxes need a stimulus to send them out to spend because of the costs of necessities of life and then attack Obama coming out the gate about tax increases.  Or maybe when those who can no longer afford their mortgages get lucky and are able to sell their houses at bargain basement prices or maybe even with short sales, they should be concerned about the most common type of capitol gains paid by the the middle class or working class families on
a profit made from the sale of a home. 

Ah the GOP, does the beer heiress or her spouse pay huge amounts of capitol gains? Does anyone else understand that how the very ultra rich never pay taxes at all, much less capitol gains tax as their investments are those tax free long term bonds the rest don't have the available capital to invest in.  Correct me please if I'm wrong as i readily admit I'm no economist past balancing the check book and managing to still keep the wolf from the door as I always have been able to, but I so tire of the BS, put out by the RNC that I am convinced hardly relates to the people i am also convinced are mostly just struggling to survive. Those on Main Street instead of Wall Street or down the street from me.


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