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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2008, 02:39:03 PM » |
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Hehe - this is fun - I posted the equivalent of this like three times one click away for you, but of course you are too dumb to find it: Additions to the Geneva Convention of 1977, Art 35. Basic rules 1. In any armed conflict, the right of the Parties to the conflict to choose methods or means of warfare is not unlimited.
2. It is prohibited to employ weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering.
3. It is prohibited to employ methods or means of warfare which are intended, or may be expected, to cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment.
This is the one only the US, Iran, Iraq and Pakistan has refused to ratify. - ROFL And now a little goodie for my new favourite Cauboi, now that I am done with "Stephen-the-religious-mccarthyist-fanatic". This is also a good link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NuclearLegalityAs you see there is plenty of conventions from before 1945 that bans "the bomb" ... But I guess you never learned about those at the US schools ...  ROFL - The most retarded idiot I ever debated with it is ...
More non-responses... the final death knell of the losers. At least you know when to roll-over. You've been pinned and exposed. You're inability to respond underscores your previous lies. That is, of course, pending your posting of the Geneva Convention Article that supports what you think it does... Hmm, why haven't you posted that yet... Liar. You're a joke. But thanks for playing. You've been a sport -- well not really, been sure been fun to demolish. |
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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2008, 03:26:28 PM » |
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1. I never learned anything at any "US schools" 2. All I can see from your link is some folks trying to figure out guidelines for trying to agree on something that never existed: as I said, there was nothing in the Convention about nuclear weapons. 3.What about the Chinese prisoners of war, butchered by the Japanese in WWII? This is the 3rd time I ask, with no answer from you. So again: should America and the world would have better left the Japanese continue their job?
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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2008, 03:45:57 PM » |
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If we went so far about Convention, here is another thing: the M-16 assault rifle and the like Kalachnikova sister are listed as "no-no" for using in combat, you know why? Because, used with most common ammunition 5.75 mm, the velocity of the bullet is higher than ratified in the Convention and the wound inflicted by a 5.75 mm (as opposed to a 9 mm) is almost always fatal if hitting upper-body parts. And these weapons are used by almost all armies over the world.
As you can see, even the small little things are not fully enforced by the Convention and certain countries don't even give a little tinny shit about Geneva. The Convention is there for fully grown mature people and nations to remind them that a lot of damage can be done and even in the times of war to behave rationally, if there exists such thing.
It's the irony of the hypocrisy.
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« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2008, 12:40:01 AM » |
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1. I never learned anything at any "US schools" 2. All I can see from your link is some folks trying to figure out guidelines for trying to agree on something that never existed: as I said, there was nothing in the Convention about nuclear weapons. 3.What about the Chinese prisoners of war, butchered by the Japanese in WWII? This is the 3rd time I ask, with no answer from you. So again: should America and the world would have better left the Japanese continue their job? 1. I deeply regret and apologize if I have offended you by insinuating that you might be a US national. 2. A bit troublesome for you then then that the International Court of Justice seems to have another opinion. The laws in most countries do not explicitly ban the mashing of someones brain with chainsaw either, but it is still forbidden. The international court of justice have found that at least 20 paragraphs in 6 different international conventions applies to and outlaws the use of nuclear weapons in the way they were used in WW2. But anyhow, that's only the UN - something insignificant ... like the rest of the world ... ROFL 3. I have already adressed that. The nuclear bombings were not necessary to end the war. Furthermore, the use of illegal practices by the Japanese does not justify the use of illegal tactics used by the US. The same principle applies today in Iraq - the illegal practices used by the old Iraqi regime do not justify the war crimes committed by the US in Iraq today. And on new point on high-velocity weapons, they are as you say outlawed according to international law, and most countries refrain from using them. But it is not the gun that is the problem but rather the ammunition. Some types of ammunition is outlawed and some are not. Possibly the US does not refrain from using illegal ammunition, but they were never much concerned about war crimes or international law anyhow. Especially in the Vietnam war there were many reports of the US using illegal ammunition. The use of such high velocity weapons is considered outlawed according the St. Petersburg convention of 1868 and the Hague convention article 23. Anything else you need to know ? |
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« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2008, 02:01:02 PM » |
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Unlike you, I admire U.S. and it wouldn't be an offense if you call me an American, just I am not.
The nuclear bombings were very necessary to end the war. Many Japanese ultra-nationalists wouldn't give up without a fierce ultimate fight (that is the way of the samurai, or Bushido, how is called), so America just avoided blood-shed of many of its own soldiers. In other words "better fuck you than me" and I fully support that war-time decision.
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« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2008, 06:28:27 AM » |
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The nuclear bombings were very necessary to end the war. Many Japanese ultra-nationalists wouldn't give up without a fierce ultimate fight (that is the way of the samurai, or Bushido, how is called), so America just avoided blood-shed of many of its own soldiers. In other words "better fuck you than me" and I fully support that war-time decision.
The war with Japan was over anyhow. The emperor had already surrendered before the attacks, but the US did not accept the surrender. The true reason for the nuclear attacks was to extract revenge for the humiliation of the american navy at Pearl harbour and to impress the Soviets with the devastating force of the nuclear weapons. However, as I have already explained the true motivation of the attacks are irrelevant in determining whether they constitue a war crime or not. Any attack to civilian targets that has the potential of creating that much harm, is a war crime even if it has a sound strategic goal. This is both according to the conventions that the US have actually ratified, and according to those they have refused to ratify. But when it comes to being impressed with the US, I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion ... |
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« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2008, 04:37:49 PM » |
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Europe, I don't agree with you, but you have your opinion about that part of history and so be it. You just have to put up with the fact that U.S. was and still is number 1 superpower in the world. And no, China will not raise to that level, at least not under a Communist regime. That's why I fully support your regime  I'm just complaining about this and that, is a common thing people do here, in the free world, we do it for fun. |
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« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2008, 08:26:08 PM » |
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More non-responses... the final death knell of the losers. Yep. |
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Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea;
Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage
And make a Northwest Passage to the sea.
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« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2008, 01:57:06 AM » |
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Europe, I don't agree with you, but you have your opinion about that part of history and so be it. You just have to put up with the fact that U.S. was and still is number 1 superpower in the world. And no, China will not raise to that level, at least not under a Communist regime. That's why I fully support your regime I'm just complaining about this and that, is a common thing people do here, in the free world, we do it for fun. Economically the US i no longer the number one factor, it has lagged behind Europe as well as China, and is rapidly sinking more ... My regime ? You probably don't have a clue which one that is ... But you don't have a clue about china either so nothing else is to expect ... |
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« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2008, 01:52:21 PM » |
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Economically the US i no longer the number one factor, it has lagged behind Europe as well as China, and is rapidly sinking more ...
If U.S. is sinking, then all the world is doomed, there is no more economy whatsoever. US has lagged, maybe, as not growing as fast as others, but you're BS yourself if you believe China's economy is getting better while the rest of the world is in recession. Not that I'm a financial guru, but which school did you learn about free-market? Because you cannot learn some proper economy lessons from any Chinese schools  |
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« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2008, 02:00:52 PM » |
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My regime ? You probably don't have a clue which one that is ... But you don't have a clue about china either so nothing else is to expect ...
You also don't have any clue which school I went to, you thought it was "American school",... so what? that is not significant. The sky is blue, the birds are singing, I don't care if chinese people are suffering under an oppressive regime, and the most important thing: I don't believe is necessary for my life experience to learn more than I already did in high-school about China |
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« Reply #71 on: July 04, 2008, 01:45:46 PM » |
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"U.S. credibility and the credibility of U.S. financial markets is zero everywhere in the world," said Joseph Stiglitz, a professor of economics at Columbia University who has sharply criticized the Bush administration and praised China's economic management in the past. "Anybody looking at this from the outside says, 'There's been a lot of hot air coming out of the U.S., so why should we listen to these guys when they didn't know how to manage risk?' " http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/01/news/economy/election_issue_poll/index.htm?postversion=2008070112It's funny how everyone who actually has a clue seems to disagree with when it comes to comparing the US and chinese economies at this point in time.
Economically the US i no longer the number one factor, it has lagged behind Europe as well as China, and is rapidly sinking more ...
If U.S. is sinking, then all the world is doomed, there is no more economy whatsoever. US has lagged, maybe, as not growing as fast as others, but you're BS yourself if you believe China's economy is getting better while the rest of the world is in recession. Not that I'm a financial guru, but which school did you learn about free-market? Because you cannot learn some proper economy lessons from any Chinese schools |
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« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2008, 01:48:16 PM » |
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I don't believe is necessary for my life experience to learn more than I already did in high-school about China
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« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2008, 02:56:26 PM » |
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I don't know who is Joseph Stiglitz, but this I can tell you for sure: U.S. financial market is the market in fact everything in the world goes around this market. I told you already: learn how to put up with the fact: U.S. being the richest country on earth, makes the world goes around it, that includes your beloved China |
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