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Author Topic: Israel will attack Iran unless enrichment stops  (Read 1689 times)
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« on: June 06, 2008, 01:22:15 PM »

Quote from: Shaul Mofaz, Transport Minister, a member of Olmert's security cabinet and former defense minister
If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective
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The first time an attack on Iran "if they don't stop", is put so clearly by a governement official (even Israeli).

Do you think they will do it?

I think Iran will stop before. Too risky for Iran to be ashamed in an Israeli attack.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 01:29:24 PM »

Quote from: Shaul Mofaz, Transport Minister, a member of Olmert's security cabinet and former defense minister
If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective
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The first time an attack on Iran "if they don't stop", is put so clearly by a governement official (even Israeli).

Do you think they will do it?

I think Iran will stop before. Too risky for Iran to be ashamed in an Israeli attack.

Especially since Israel has a history of successfully attacking enemy nuclear facilities.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 01:32:56 PM »


Those Persian Mullahs will try to do it. Israel will prevent them from even getting close to having a Nuclear device, given the Iranians already have a delivery vehicle (missile).
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 03:50:28 PM »

Quote from: Shaul Mofaz, Transport Minister, a member of Olmert's security cabinet and former defense minister
If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective
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The first time an attack on Iran "if they don't stop", is put so clearly by a governement official (even Israeli).

Do you think they will do it?

I think Iran will stop before. Too risky for Iran to be ashamed in an Israeli attack.

A very strong statement... Whether or not it's meaningful or more insightful than other comments from other officials, we'll just have to wait and see.

While I'm not familiar with Shaul Mofaz, some basic reading certainly makes it appear like he's a hard-liner... with political aspirations...  And Political aspirations at least bring me a bit of a question as to a possible agenda behind making such comments...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaul_Mofaz

The one thing we know is that the typical UN sanctions and/or an endless stream of meaningless resolutions will do little to stop Iran's aspirations.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 04:19:50 PM »

Hello Terry, this thread looks like a convention of rabid Zionists. Wink  And I continue to read on DEBKAfiles to get the daily skinny from that bunch. Posted elsewhere, but may also be
worth while once again here.  Comments? I think you and I may be able to share opinions rationally. What if BiBi manages to win an early election. Wonder how Mr. Martel, or as I prefer Charlie, would feel about his threats to send the whole ME into a massive nuclear inferno?  As you know even though we may disagree on some of the issues related to israel, I respect your opinion, while having little patience with keyboard warriors who only spout the same GOP talking points we've all heard for years. Rabid Zionist propaganda or actual internal Israeli politics?

Exclusive: Flurry over possible Israeli attack on Iran galvanized by race to succeed Olmert
June 6, 2008, 10:38 PM (GMT+02:00)
Two White House spokesmen stressed Friday, June 6, that Washington was committed to solving the Iran issue by diplomacy. They were fielding a barrage of questions on Israeli transport minister Shaul Mofaz’s statement that an attack on Iran’s nuclear sites looks “unavoidable” if it continues uranium enrichment - given the failure of sanctions.
Asked whether the US would support an Israeli strike on Iraq, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel answered indirectly: “I’m not going to talk about hypotheticals. I think we’ve been pretty clear in recent weeks and months about our approach on Iran.”

Dana Perino followed by saying: “I understand that Israel is very concerned… when they have a neighbor in their region – Iran – that says they want to wipe them off the map. We are trying to solve this diplomatically.”

DEBKAfile’s political sources report that, while prime minister Ehud Olmert’s aides and the Israeli media played up the importance of the Iranian dossier he presented to President George W. Bush in the White House Wednesday, June 4, there was little substance to their conversation.

Olmert aimed for the impression that he was on top of his job in the face of calls at home for him to step down over the investigation against him for corrupt practices. Any real exchange of intelligence between the two governments took place in the talks US Director of National Intelligence Adm. Mike McConnell held in Tel Aviv while Olmert was in Washington. The American visitor met with the Mossad chief Meir Dagan and defense minister Ehud Barak, following which he was due to brief President Bush over the weekend.
It is self-evident to every Israeli that Iran’s acquisition of a nuclear bomb would threaten the Jewish state’s existence and no government can afford to stand by and watch it happen. For Mofaz, who is campaigning to succeed Olmert as Kadima leader and next prime minister, a hawkish position on Iran has the best chance of garnering popular support.
This does not promise an attack on Iran is about to happen. So far, Olmert and Barak have been treading water on the Iran problem; they are even dragging their feet on the lingering Hamas missile offensive which is progressively depopulating southwestern Israel.

http://www.debka.com/headline_print.php?hid=5328

And BTW, congrats on the 60 years of your spouse's nation. And just to add, Charlie thinks I'm a stupid old woman who couldn't possibly know anything about almost anything. LOL,
little changes around IAP for some "whippersnappers."

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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 07:31:05 PM »



Cass,

Thank you for the congratulations on Australia's 60th. We'll be here long after almost everyone else (except for a little concern about Indonesia) like "On the Beach".

I truly believe Israeli's collectively, have a constant fear of another holocaust. Because of this inborn fear, they are very likely to eliminate any threat that Iran may pose to them.

I can't say I blame them, I just hope it is conventional as the nuclear option may have dire consequences. I understand that they have perfected a mission profile by many flights to the western Med. Plus, don't forget their Dolphin submarines and the on board cruise missiles. And, their extremely accurate missiles with conventional warheads.

That is how I view it, IMHO
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 01:24:18 AM »

Charlie couldn't care less if you're old...or stupid. It's a free country.

Reality shows us the Israeli history in dealing with such threats. The recent strikes in Syria, the hugely successful strike on Osirak are clear examples. US Carriers launch Israeli jets in training exercises, I'm sure Iran's facilities can be dealt with, the US could play a significant but limited role. Cause.....If I'm the Israelis, I'm havin an Osirak reunion. In Iran. And I'm inviting the Americans this time reminding them that their absence ain't gonna hold up the party so, please be on time.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 01:35:29 AM »

Like most of Israelis me awaits for war with Iran right after Euro-2008. Hopefully it will end till new 24 season starts.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 01:47:47 AM »

Like most of Israelis me awaits for war with Iran right after Euro-2008. Hopefully it will end till new 24 season starts.


That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 11:32:05 AM »

I think it will happen, late Aug or middle of Sept. We have all heard Iran talk tough for years thinking it was bullying its adversaries. When was the last time Israel has bluffed? Also note other Arab nations recently staying quiet along with Iran strongest supporters China, and Russia. The stage is being set and Iran is too dumb to see it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 11:50:55 AM »

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  Roll Eyes

Euro 2008 is a European Football championships which ends on 29'th of June and "24" is American TV show which starts somewhere near X-mas. So war with Iran should be somewhere in the middle so i will either watch my lovely show on comfort or be dead from some Russian made bomb.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 01:35:35 PM »

Israel will do fuck all about Iran and they know it too well. Attacking a sovereign nation like Iran without being attacked first would have catastrophic consequences for the whole world, economically and politically.
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2008, 01:54:46 PM »

Israel will do fuck all about Iran and they know it too well. Attacking a sovereign nation like Iran without being attacked first would have catastrophic consequences for the whole world, economically and politically.

Like it did last time to Iraq....and most recently Syria?
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 01:59:39 PM »

Iran is different...
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 02:04:22 PM »

Ummm.........OK  Roll Eyes
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