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« on: June 17, 2008, 06:38:46 AM » |
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I could have added this to either of two threads, "bush's legacy" or "November" so I posted it on a new one. "Historians belonging to both parties offered a litany of historical comparisons that give little hope to the Republican... “This should be an overwhelming Democratic victory,” said Allan Lichtman, ... whose forecasting model has correctly predicted the last six presidential popular vote winners, ... “Republicans face what have always been insurmountable historical odds.” His system gives McCain a score on par with Jimmy Carter’s in 1980. But the biggest obstacle in McCain’s path may be running in the same party as the most unpopular president America has had since at least the advent of modern polling. Only Harry Truman and Nixon — both of whom were dogged by unpopular wars abroad and political scandals at home — have been nearly as unpopular in their last year in office, and both men’s parties lost the presidency in the following election." http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080615/pl_politico/11090You wingnuts won't read this, just the headlines, so let's hear your stock arguments so we can explain it to you like we have to explain everything. |
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neue regel
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 06:44:23 AM » |
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Should we cancel the election now and save the money?
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Irwin
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 07:28:49 AM » |
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Should we cancel the election now and save the money?
Oh, why not? The article is for those who are interested and those who have been telling me since February that Obama will be "crushed" or polls don't matter. Some of us like to know how things work beyond the daily headlines and dogma. |
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Abraxas
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 08:21:05 AM » |
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I could have added this to either of two threads, "bush's legacy" or "November" so I posted it on a new one. Yes, cause when *I* hit the fork in the road, I also make the special effort to take the third path.  Reaganite rightfully earned the ire of people here for putting up every article and scandel about Obama, no matter how irrelevent, for no reason but to annoy people like you, Irwin. Try not to follow his lead, please... |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
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... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 06:26:26 PM » |
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Honestly the guy better get on it, he's made one major speech and it was a terrible one at that.
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“When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudice, and motivated by pride and vanity” - Carnegie
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 07:32:52 PM » |
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I'd rather judge the election for myself.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 02:50:09 AM » |
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I could have added this to either of two threads, "bush's legacy" or "November" so I posted it on a new one. "Historians belonging to both parties offered a litany of historical comparisons that give little hope to the Republican... “This should be an overwhelming Democratic victory,” said Allan Lichtman, ... whose forecasting model has correctly predicted the last six presidential popular vote winners, ... “Republicans face what have always been insurmountable historical odds.” His system gives McCain a score on par with Jimmy Carter’s in 1980. But the biggest obstacle in McCain’s path may be running in the same party as the most unpopular president America has had since at least the advent of modern polling. Only Harry Truman and Nixon — both of whom were dogged by unpopular wars abroad and political scandals at home — have been nearly as unpopular in their last year in office, and both men’s parties lost the presidency in the following election." http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080615/pl_politico/11090You wingnuts won't read this, just the headlines, so let's hear your stock arguments so we can explain it to you like we have to explain everything. So he picked Gore in 2000 and was wrong huh? lol I love how they slip that in by saying "correctly predicted the last six presidential popular vote winners,".... Anyway The race has not even started... It would be foolish to think Obama is not going to have a few more bones fall out of his closet... |
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Before becoming governor, Palin served as mayor of Wasilla, she recounted, adding: \"And since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves. I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a \'community organizer,\' except tha
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2008, 06:09:06 PM » |
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So, if McCAIN wins, will Irwin cry like a little girl?
I bet 5 dollars and a Twix that he does.
I believe McCain will win, not because he is a better candidate, not because Obama is black, not because of any reason except one.
The powers that be want McCain so they can continue their plans for the Middle East.
I admit I could be wrong, but for people like me, it doesn't matter who is elected, since I know both parties are controlled by the same groups.
I really didn't care at all who would win the presidency, but now I will be rooting for McCain, just so I can see Irwin and all those like him, cry like little girls.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 10:39:49 AM » |
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I could have added this to either of two threads, "bush's legacy" or "November" so I posted it on a new one. Yes, cause when *I* hit the fork in the road, I also make the special effort to take the third path. Reaganite rightfully earned the ire of people here for putting up every article and scandel about Obama, no matter how irrelevent, for no reason but to annoy people like you, Irwin. Try not to follow his lead, please... That was unnecessary and a stupid comparison. I am not posting stupid rumors. I am posting serious articles about the election with useful information ABOUT THE PROCESS OF ELECTIONS as well as the election. You are like one of those cops that has nothing better to do then write j walking tickets all day. If you don't like it then lock the damn thing. Let ignorance reign! Who cares. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 10:43:48 AM » |
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So, if McCAIN wins, will Irwin cry like a little girl?
I bet 5 dollars and a Twix that he does.
I believe McCain will win, not because he is a better candidate, not because Obama is black, not because of any reason except one.
The powers that be want McCain so they can continue their plans for the Middle East.
I admit I could be wrong, but for people like me, it doesn't matter who is elected, since I know both parties are controlled by the same groups.
I really didn't care at all who would win the presidency, but now I will be rooting for McCain, just so I can see Irwin and all those like him, cry like little girls.
Well, that was a useless little outburst. Feel better? Why don't you go nappy, now, k? |
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 05:16:52 PM » |
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So, if McCAIN wins, will Irwin cry like a little girl?
I bet 5 dollars and a Twix that he does.
I believe McCain will win, not because he is a better candidate, not because Obama is black, not because of any reason except one.
The powers that be want McCain so they can continue their plans for the Middle East.
I admit I could be wrong, but for people like me, it doesn't matter who is elected, since I know both parties are controlled by the same groups.
I really didn't care at all who would win the presidency, but now I will be rooting for McCain, just so I can see Irwin and all those like him, cry like little girls.
"Powers that be?" Could you be a little more specific here? This could imply anything from actual cultural/economic elites to paranoid notions about Illuminati. |
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. . . sometimes it seems that one has to lean into the wind to stand straight.
James Welch Winter in the Blood
Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution,no law, no court can even do much to save it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 02:48:33 AM » |
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So, if McCAIN wins, will Irwin cry like a little girl?
I bet 5 dollars and a Twix that he does.
I believe McCain will win, not because he is a better candidate, not because Obama is black, not because of any reason except one.
The powers that be want McCain so they can continue their plans for the Middle East.
I admit I could be wrong, but for people like me, it doesn't matter who is elected, since I know both parties are controlled by the same groups.
I really didn't care at all who would win the presidency, but now I will be rooting for McCain, just so I can see Irwin and all those like him, cry like little girls.
Well, that was a useless little outburst. Feel better? Why don't you go nappy, now, k? yes, I feel much better, thank you. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 08:47:21 AM » |
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[/quote]"Powers that be?" Could you be a little more specific here? This could imply anything from actual cultural/economic elites to paranoid notions about Illuminati.
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Or the Joos. No, the international banking conspiracy that pulled us off the gold standard to ruin America and insure government waste!
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 09:40:13 AM » |
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"Powers that be?" Could you be a little more specific here? This could imply anything from actual cultural/economic elites to paranoid notions about Illuminati. [/quote] It is easy to dismiss something which several Congressman, a rear admiral and numerous other well respected people have told us about. It is not so easy to actually search for and read what they had to say. btw, ever read George Washington's letter concerning the Illuminati? No, of course not. The sheeple have been so well conditioned, they are not even capable of recognizing the truth when they see it. We had a sitting president, one who the sheeple think was the greatest thing since beer was invented, who wrote the truth in a letter to socialist pig Col. Edward Mandel House, yet the sheeple just dismiss it, simply because it doesn't fit their current world view. What does it take to get through to people? Obviously a lot more than warnings from a rear Admiral, several Congressman and a sitting president. FDR wrote to Col. House....... "I had a nice talk with Jack Morgan the other day. . . . J.P.M. did not seem much troubled over the gold purchasing, and confessed that he had been completely misled in regard to the Federal expenditures.
The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson . . . . The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States -- only on a far bigger and broader basis. . . .
Take care of yourself and do write me soon."
Always sincerely, Franklin D Roosevelt." November 21, 1933 But the sheeple say baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. |
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Irwin
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 09:53:59 AM » |
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"Powers that be?" Could you be a little more specific here? This could imply anything from actual cultural/economic elites to paranoid notions about Illuminati. It is easy to dismiss something which several Congressman, a rear admiral and numerous other well respected people have told us about. It is not so easy to actually search for and read what they had to say. btw, ever read George Washington's letter concerning the Illuminati? No, of course not. The sheeple have been so well conditioned, they are not even capable of recognizing the truth when they see it. We had a sitting president, one who the sheeple think was the greatest thing since beer was invented, who wrote the truth in a letter to socialist pig Col. Edward Mandel House, yet the sheeple just dismiss it, simply because it doesn't fit their current world view. What does it take to get through to people? Obviously a lot more than warnings from a rear Admiral, several Congressman and a sitting president. FDR wrote to Col. House....... "I had a nice talk with Jack Morgan the other day. . . . J.P.M. did not seem much troubled over the gold purchasing, and confessed that he had been completely misled in regard to the Federal expenditures.
The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson . . . . The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States -- only on a far bigger and broader basis. . . .
Take care of yourself and do write me soon."
Always sincerely, Franklin D Roosevelt." November 21, 1933 But the sheeple say baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. [/quote] We're so lucky that special folks like you can SEE THE LIGHT. |
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