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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2008, 10:22:36 AM »

 I agree with mdma bashing is all that's done there...without racism and religious bigotry the Middle East could be a charming place...and I do mean the IAP forum page, as well as the world region.
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2008, 01:19:44 PM »

I agree with mdma bashing is all that's done there...without racism and religious bigotry the Middle East could be a charming place...and I do mean the IAP forum page, as well as the world region.

Yes, but then, where all the biggots and fanatics would go to put up a fight?
They wanted a place and they choose Judea (Israel/Palestine/Lebanon).

IMO, we should put a huge fence around this region and everybody who want to fight for his religion goes there.
The place should be open to Sihk, Tamul, Tibetian Monks, Wacco-styled evangelists etc...
Better to have everything concentrated there, while we are at it.
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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2008, 10:30:51 PM »

Let me remind you my dear Fred,
i don't know what you real nationality is but if you are royal Belgian living in Estonia not long ago your brothers used to be even uglier than Muslim fanatics. If you ask me Holocaust is 100% fruit of Christianity and constant hate caused by it. Not long ago you used to kill each other for political views. Want me to remind you 19 and 20 centuries?

I can show freethinker the same truth about any other place including his own country which full of religious freaks.

So they only thing you can do is to teach Muslims how to kill each others and Jews so it will end faster and not to teach them peace.
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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2008, 06:30:48 AM »

We talk about al Qaeda in Iraq and you talk about No Fly zones --- nothing to do with it.

While you talk about milk. Sorry Ahk, the only reason I mention no fly zones was to dismiss your misunderstood and admittedly erred argument. This post now has moved on, I posted two more links to the struggle in Afghanistan. You're still beating this dead horse cause I corrected you. You didn't like it, we move on. Smiley

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You claim al Qaeda is on the ropes


Your anger now includes being disingenuous. These words can never be attributed to me. On the ropes and big gains against are hardly comparable, your continued milk mentality is puzzling.

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and you know this because Osama made a call to arms to Muslims towards Iraq.

He and Zawahiri, and many jihadist foreign interests all began to focus on Iraq. They saw a chance for an American defeat and withdrawl much like Vietnam. Our own Senators such as Kennedy and Reid started mirroring the same rhetorical cowardice. Tactics used in Iraq became so extreme and brutal it unleashed a backlash by Sunni tribal leaders. The call to arms by OBL and al-Qaeda's actual behavior and focus on Iraq is why I know this, Ahk. And, I actually f'n pay attention....Ahk!

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From that you extrapolate that he has 'sent all his resources to Iraq'.


"All" his resources to Iraq...is NOT what I said, you are so easily dismissed. You put words in people's mouths, you're clearly so disingenuous here, it's not even about the topic anymore. I get the feeling you're desperately trying to find some fault in my argument as yours is in shambles.

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Again, nothing to do with it and nothing there that remotely proves anything. It's a stretch to say it even implies anything.

Reality..is what I'm pointing right at. AQI began to send resources and effort to Iraq this cannot be denied. Both he and Zawahiri and Zarqawi, many of them realized a self-determining Iraq cannot become a reality, it's the anti-thesis of their jihad.

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Do you ever drag your ass on the carpet as well?

Is there really any reason for this to continue? Honestly?

Yes, I do drag my ass on the carpet, pee outdoors, I have nasty fangs, the bite much worse than the bark and I do stick my head out the car window every once in awhile. I attack life and where turned away, I attack in a different direction. I'm always in a good mood, love my belly scratched and if I could get away with it....there are some women I'd like to shove my nose into and inhale. Why?

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It's clear you have no idea what a debate is

Crushing your erred argument is not what a debate is about?

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, what constitutes 'proof' or 'evidence' of something, and anyone who claims to be 'dominating' arguments here has never been anything but dominated themselves in 'real life'.

Know alot about whether someone has been "dominated" all their life, huh?

Please and once again.....is there any reason for this?

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So you agree that when you were called stupid after calling others stupid and you complained and nothing happened --that's the point you decided moderation was 'subjective'. Glad we agree.

Actually..the dickless and vulgarity I found distasteful. And so I'll stand corrected here. I should not have used the word stupid, I'll withdraw that as being evidence of subjectivity. The vulgar language and continued rants and words like "dickless", I feel, are useless on these forums. One, you have no idea. Two, it's childish. And my question was...if blatant racism or discrimination offends and gets you banned....obviously blatantly vulgar words or statements and referring to someone as dickless is approved. I find that somewhat subjective, I merely mentioned it, you don't care.

Let's move on?
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2008, 10:04:41 AM »

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I can show freethinker the same truth about any other place including his own country which full of religious freaks.
mdma, no one needs show me the religious freaks in my country I am all too well aware of them.
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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2008, 10:09:49 AM »

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The vulgar language and continued rants and words like "dickless", I feel, are useless on these forums. ... it's childish.
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2008, 02:57:14 PM »

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Let me remind you my dear Fred,
i don't know what you real nationality is but if you are royal Belgian living in Estonia not long ago your brothers used to be even uglier than Muslim fanatics. If you ask me Holocaust is 100% fruit of Christianity and constant hate caused by it. Not long ago you used to kill each other for political views. Want me to remind you 19 and 20 centuries?

I can show freethinker the same truth about any other place including his own country which full of religious freaks.

So they only thing you can do is to teach Muslims how to kill each others and Jews so it will end faster and not to teach them peace.

This conversation is not about what happened 65 years ago, but let me rectify a few things:

The Holocaust has nothing to do with christianity. Adolf Hitler was anti-christian. (You should read books about the German resistance {against nazism} and the horrors suffered by the catholic clergy etc).
Maybe in Russia and Ukrainia, progroms were more a christian thing, yet it still had nothing to do with the religion per se. Just as the crusades in the 11th century or the invasion of Iraq today have nothing or very little to do with christian extremism.
And, thought abominable crimes, pogroms were not the Holocaust you talked about.

The fact is that the strip of land stretching fron Egypt to Turkey is populated with religious extremist morons and that you must go as far as to Myanmar, India or Sri Lanka to see poeple as moronic as these extremists from the ME.

The Israelo-Palestinian issue, the Lebanon crisis, the Goland dispute etc are one of the few items in the world which doesn't evoluate, with no hope in sight.

You, poeple from Lebanon, Israel and Palestine (whatever your religion, I don't care - for me it's total non-sens), you can't sign a treaty that holds more than 3 days and can't make territorial agreements even after 60 years the Turks and the British left your land.
Everytime when peace seems to appear at the horizon one of you must do something to smash it and start the old sectarian fight again.
I'm not saying that you are the ones who do the most war. This is not the question. But you are like antique poeple who can't evoluate or change or adapt to modern times.

I can't understand why it is so. You have the internet, don't you?
I start to be fed up with segregating your poeple across religious lines. For me you are all the same. You are all, just poeple living there.
For me,  poeple from Lebanon and Israel and Palestine are just one population. I don't know why you must always play the goof, build walls and no-go zones between yoursleves. Why you must fire over the fences or kidnap each other.
If there was a reason for that, IMO you would have reached it out after all this time.
But it seems that you all do it without reason. Maybe because it's fun?
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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2008, 12:27:14 AM »

This conversation is not about what happened 65 years ago, but let me rectify a few things:

my comment shows an irony in words of European who 'teach peace' Muslims when not a while ago wasn't that peaceful at all.


The Holocaust has nothing to do with christianity. Adolf Hitler was anti-christian. (You should read books about the German resistance {against nazism} and the horrors suffered by the catholic clergy etc).

Hate towards Jews in Europe is a side effect of Christianity, Hitler was raised in Christian family and was a Christian. He was against religion while he became leader Nazi party because otherwise religion would be above the Reich. Anything happened to Jews in Europe is a sub product of Christianity. Only in latest years it shifts to Israeli-Muslim conflict. Possibly with help of fellow Christians.

I can't understand why it is so. You have the internet, don't you?
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Modern times? Saying who ? You must be living in other Europe i know. With all gayness you trying to shine with nowadays you still got Balkans, Cyprus, Spain, Ireland, Georgia and domestic conflicts with Muslims. While 63 years ago was not that great amount of time considering the fact sooner or later you will start killing each other again. Moreover there was a 40 years break between WWI and WWII. The only things stops you now is that you are able to earn some money. Once it stops you will raise another Hitler and mayhem will restart. Oil ends and who gets his ass to the job on bicycle?

So better of fight MS and Bill Gates who takes your joy from Win98 rather teaching anyone peace over here.

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« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2008, 07:09:13 AM »



The Mid-East has always been in tribal conflict for over 4,000 years. I don't expect this to change overnight, but what I want to know is what do all the previous rants have to do with burning the New Testament of the Christian Bible?

Many other 'symbols' of various issues are burned almost daily. Why pick just one?
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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2008, 07:50:37 AM »

This is planet earth not just Middle East. If you would forget the news and read some history instead you will find that all regions are pretty much the same.
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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2008, 08:02:39 AM »

This is planet earth not just Middle East. If you would forget the news and read some history instead you will find that all regions are pretty much the same.


I can agree with that.  Wink
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« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2008, 12:58:43 PM »

mdma,

We are not teaching other to make peace. Peace is not something that you teach. But ok, if it was ironical I can accept that.

To abound in your sens, I find a little bit ridiculous all these leaders, past and present, from all around the world who try to broke a peace deal between you and the palestinians. Did the Chinese came too?
In that, I agree with you that we have nothing to teach you.

About nazism, it was an ideology based on race (eye color etc) and pre-christianic (meaning before christinaism existed) german pagan mythology.
...well think what you want.
Think of christianity as the Great Satan if you want, but staying that remote from the truth won't make you any different than islamists.
Except that your personal vision is even more absurd in light of historical realities.
Maybe you have to learn History a bit more (for someone who put 40 years between ww1 and ww2... LOL).

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With all gayness you trying to shine with nowadays you still got Balkans, Cyprus, Spain, Ireland, Georgia and domestic conflicts with Muslims.

In Cyprus, Spain and Ireland there is no conflict, Georgia is not in Europe (eventhought they participated in the Eurovision - LOL) and the Balkan war is over since 1996.
But ok, with their proximity with Israel/Lebanon, the Balkan and Cyprus have a little bit of you...
No, ok, I was kiding. I don't want to turn that into a jew vs. christian internet posters war...
Wink I'm beyond that.
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