The Patriot
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« on: June 20, 2008, 07:49:00 AM » |
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I have read that last year the pacific mennonits were rejected from Quebec because they refused teaching evolutionism in their schools!!! and pursued by authorities- sad intolerant decision.
How we should accept to teach and impose this weak 'hypothesis' to children? especially when we know that it's the most popular theory among nazis and white racists.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 07:54:09 AM » |
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I have read that last year that the pacific mennonits were rejected from Quebec because they refused teaching evolutionism in their schools!!! and pursuited by authorities- sad intolerant decision.
How we should accept to teach and impose this weak 'hypothesis' to children? especially when we know that it's the most popular theory among nazis and white racists.
This is the wrong place for this thread but there is no such thing as evolutionism. It is a word made up by creationists to make evolution sound at least equal to creationism. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 11:57:06 AM » |
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Of course, then there's that pastor............. |
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 12:04:01 PM » |
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I think ID should be taught in schools. There should be a quick section in the book on it:
"Some believe that life was designed by an intelligent omnipotent being for reasons we are not meant to know. This belief is called intelligent design. There is no evidence to support this belief, nor does it have any predictive power whatsoever."
Problem solved!
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 12:32:33 PM » |
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I think ID should be taught in schools. There should be a quick section in the book on it:
"Some believe that life was designed by an intelligent omnipotent being for reasons we are not meant to know. This belief is called intelligent design. There is no evidence to support this belief, nor does it have any predictive power whatsoever."
Problem solved!
Not in science class. The belief is not called intelligent design - ID is a made up term by people who beleive in creationism but want to cloak it in scientific terms, that even the chief proponent admits, can't really be called science unless you include things like astrology. I'm not up for teaching astrology in science class, either. Why are you? |
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 01:35:10 PM » |
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If ID passes the peer review phase of the scientific theory, then put it in.
As far as I know, it hasn't and therefore shouldn't be viewed as fact.
How about instead of teaching ID we teach some of the issues with evolution? I know there are things we haven't figured out yet, so rather then teach "the other side", teach the facts... and the lack of facts.
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
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- Hunter S. Thompson
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 02:19:03 PM » |
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A biology professor did pose this question to my class once: Where did the first cell come from? It's unanswerable of course, I think both should be given thought. There are so many things that cannot be described by science even now, throwing something out because it can't be proven yet goes against everything science is built upon, looking for answers in the most unlikely of places.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 02:31:42 PM » |
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A biology professor did pose this question to my class once: Where did the first cell come from? It's unanswerable of course, I think both should be given thought. It is not unanswerable. We do not know the answer, but that is a different thing entirely. There are so many things that cannot be described by science even now, throwing something out because it can't be proven yet goes against everything science is built upon, looking for answers in the most unlikely of places.
Science is based on evidence. If a hypothesis has no evidence to support it, it is not science. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 09:39:37 AM » |
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A biology professor did pose this question to my class once: Where did the first cell come from? It's unanswerable of course, I think both should be given thought. It is not unanswerable. We do not know the answer, but that is a different thing entirely. Do you mine PMing that too me then? I've not heard a legitimate answer to this... ever. And I'm an Atheist. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2008, 04:25:53 AM » |
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Any good teacher will teach the problems and holes in the theory as well as the science and facts - because the holes in the theory are facts.
They should also teach just what exactly would invalidate the theory.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2008, 12:55:15 PM » |
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A biology professor did pose this question to my class once: Where did the first cell come from? It's unanswerable of course, I think both should be given thought. It is not unanswerable. We do not know the answer, but that is a different thing entirely. Do you mine PMing that too me then? I've not heard a legitimate answer to this... ever. And I'm an Atheist. The answer to what? |
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2008, 01:52:39 PM » |
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Woops. I'm an idiot.
I didn't read your entire post. I just saw that you said it wasn't unanswerable...
... I didn't notice you admitted we don't know the answer.
My bad.
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky
... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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