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« on: June 27, 2008, 10:38:09 AM »

June 27 is the date of Zimbabwe's run-off election between long time leader Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai. Mugabe has been president since 1980, and has proven to be a highly incompetent leader. He is responsible for the starvation of his people by nationalizing white owned commercial farms, and frequently uses intimidation techniques to maintain power.

In this current election, Mugabe's ZANU-PF party has been violently attacking opposition supporters. It was his intention to destroy the opposition party before the June 27 election, and many people have been victimized and displaced in the process. The United States and other Western nations condemn Mugabe's regime.

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HARARE -- Widespread voter intimidation and low turnout marked Zimbabwe's one-candidate presidential run-off Friday, further damaging the vote designed to bolster long-time President Robert Mugabe's credibility.

Residents said they were forced to vote, threatened by violence, arson or roving bands of government supporters searching for those without an ink-stained finger.

Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai, who withdrew from the run-off citing a campaign of state-sponsored violence, said the results would "reflect only the fear of the people."

"What is happening today is not an election. It is an exercise in mass intimidation," he said at a news conference.

At some polling stations voters are going immediately afterwards to the local ruling party offices to demonstrate with their ballot numbers that they had voted for Mr. Mugabe.

One 25-year-old resident of Chiunguiza south of Harare, told The Globe and Mail: "We have been warned that we will lose our house if we don't vote for RGM (Robert Gabriel Mugabe) so we have to vote. It's not like we want to."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080627.wnewzimbabwe0627/BNStory/International/home

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2008, 02:41:28 PM »

It's big news over here (in Ireland).
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2008, 05:33:37 PM »

News update: Robert Mugabe has claimed victory. Obviously this does not improve his credibility in the slightest, as people were literally held at gun point and forced to vote for him.

As in many dictatorships, this was a democratic election with one candidate. It is evident that only death will remove Mr. Mugabe from power. Does anyone have any ideas as to how the world community can support the Zimbabwean people?
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 11:05:10 AM »

News update: Robert Mugabe has claimed victory. Obviously this does not improve his credibility in the slightest, as people were literally held at gun point and forced to vote for him.

As in many dictatorships, this was a democratic election with one candidate. It is evident that only death will remove Mr. Mugabe from power. Does anyone have any ideas as to how the world community can support the Zimbabwean people?

Military intervention is the only solution. Sanctions cannot work since Mugabe doesn't care about his people.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 04:43:32 PM »

agreed Iam, sanctions won't work here...its going to be tough to get any western nation to commit soldiers and money for a conventional military intervention, but there are other options.

Also, just b/c the west condemns Mugabe publicly doesn't mean he isn't being supported by the west privately...Things aren't what they always seem.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 05:16:52 PM »

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Military intervention is the only solution. Sanctions cannot work since Mugabe doesn't care about his people.
Yes, sanctions will not accomplish anything. Rather than using force though, perhaps the West can diplomatically promote democratic change throughout Africa while waiting for Mugabe to die.

Also, just b/c the west condemns Mugabe publicly doesn't mean he isn't being supported by the west privately...Things aren't what they always seem.
It is somewhat doubtful that American institutions would support a regime that claims to be enemies of "oppressive whites".
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 05:46:09 PM »

Can you identify who these whites are?...what companies or families?....national origin?

The "White" people of earth aren't necessarily united and cohesive.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 01:14:43 PM »

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Military intervention is the only solution. Sanctions cannot work since Mugabe doesn't care about his people.
Yes, sanctions will not accomplish anything. Rather than using force though, perhaps the West can diplomatically promote democratic change throughout Africa while waiting for Mugabe to die.

The problem is that Mugabe's death would not necessarily bring an end to the junta. His Zanu-PF party is the only armed group in the country and I can't see them giving up power and return to democracy. The best chance of that would be if there was a power struggle within the junta.

An alternative to military intervention might be for the west to arm the opposition to Zanu-PF and allow them to sort it out for themselves.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 01:00:43 PM »

Can you identify who these whites are?...what companies or families?....national origin?

The "White" people of earth aren't necessarily united and cohesive.
This is true, however they generally perceive all Caucasians to be disproportionately wealthy and imperialistic.

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An alternative to military intervention might be for the west to arm the opposition to Zanu-PF and allow them to sort it out for themselves.
Seems viable. Indirect intervention is probably best, and may I suggest UN peacekeeping as well?
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 01:39:29 PM »

Can you identify who these whites are?...what companies or families?....national origin?

The "White" people of earth aren't necessarily united and cohesive.
This is true, however they generally perceive all Caucasians to be disproportionately wealthy and imperialistic.

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An alternative to military intervention might be for the west to arm the opposition to Zanu-PF and allow them to sort it out for themselves.
Seems viable. Indirect intervention is probably best, and may I suggest UN peacekeeping as well?

It won't happen, unless they discover oil in Zimbabwe.
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