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Question; Obama needs to grow some balls.. what happens when peopel start asking for him to (be) assinated in the streets as they do with Bush? Answer: Some racist asshole like you will take a shot at him. HAHHAHAHHAHA Ok so thats what he will do.. when people say he whould be shot as they do with Bush, Obama and his nut huggers like you will say RACISM!!!! lol... Seriously man... heh... Is everything going to be racism when you dont like Obama for anything... I am againts Obama tax increases.. I AM NOW RACIST!! lolol |
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 07:42:02 AM » |
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What happens when peopel start asking for him to assinated in the streets as they do with Bush? Are you saying people don't do this to EVERY president? I'm not talking about circulation, I'm talking about content. I think circulation and the reputation it recieves are pretty much synonomous. I mean, if the Delaware News Journal prints something racist (and they have in the past), does it really deserve as much attention as if the New York Times did it? |
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 07:47:24 AM » |
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I mean, if the Delaware News Journal prints something racist (and they have in the past), does it really deserve as much attention as if the New York Times did it? That's certainly a fair point...but...but, with the internet, things that may once have been obscure are now seen by the masses. I would argue that even if run locally, if picked up by, say, FOX or CNN, a cartoon could be made to be seen by a large number of people...and still damaging and hurtful, and every bit as distasteful. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 08:18:28 AM » |
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I mean, if the Delaware News Journal prints something racist (and they have in the past), does it really deserve as much attention as if the New York Times did it? That's certainly a fair point...but...but, with the internet, things that may once have been obscure are now seen by the masses. I would argue that even if run locally, if picked up by, say, FOX or CNN, a cartoon could be made to be seen by a large number of people...and still damaging and hurtful, and every bit as distasteful. Totally agree... but just cause it GETS attention doesn't mean it DESERVES it. Personally I don't think this deserves the "firestorm" it's getting. The ironic thing is that the whole reason they did it was for shock value. They wanted the attention, but it's coming back to hurt them: INSIDE THE COVER STORY: CONTROVERSY ADDS TO AD WOES AT THE NEW YORKER
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While this type of controversy is the last thing a publisher needs in these troubled times, certainly if it gives advertisers pause, the timing is especially bad for The New Yorker.
The magazine is now among the most troubled magazines at Condé Nast, and it remains to be seen if the current controversy upsets the title's tenuous hold on profitability.
Through the July 7 issue, The New Yorker is down a staggering 21.2 percent in ad pages to 699.69, compared with the same period a year ago, when it racked up 887, according to Media Industry Newsletter, which tracks the industry. LINKLet the market settle this. |
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 11:25:14 AM » |
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What happens when peopel start asking for him to assinated in the streets as they do with Bush? Are you saying people don't do this to EVERY president? I'm not talking about circulation, I'm talking about content. I think circulation and the reputation it recieves are pretty much synonomous. I mean, if the Delaware News Journal prints something racist (and they have in the past), does it really deserve as much attention as if the New York Times did it? Yes they do this to EVERY president, but when they do it to Obama is will be called RACIST as the Obama Nut huggers have already shown.. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2008, 11:57:27 AM » |
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I'm not talking about circulation, I'm talking about content.
Oh, so, if we take out the ways they are diffferent, are they the same? |
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 12:06:27 PM » |
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Oh, so, if we take out the ways they are diffferent, are they the same? One might be done in water color, another pen and ink. One on canvas, the other on paper. Different? Of course. I don't see how that changes the content. |
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 12:31:02 PM » |
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Yes they do this to EVERY president, but when they do it to Obama is will be called RACIST as the Obama Nut huggers have already shown.. Who said the picture was "racist"? Most of what I've heard call it "libel" or "defemation" and appropriately "anti-semetic" - but not "racist". Not even Obama calls it racist. "Barack Obama to the New Yorker: It's your right - but you weren't right.
In his first substantive talk about the magazine's inflammatory cartoon depicting him and his wife as fist-bumping terrorists, Obama told CNN's Larry King the image fueled misconceptions and insulted Muslim Americans.
'I know it was The New Yorker's attempt at satire. I don't think they were entirely successful with it,' Obama said. 'But you know what? It's a cartoon ... and that's why we've got the First Amendment.'
The presumptive Democratic nominee said he wasn't personally stung by the cartoon."
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 09:48:42 PM » |
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I love black people!! I mean house nigga's like condi rock!!! heh  The liberals are the racists!! |
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 10:18:22 PM » |
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I love black people!! I mean house nigga's like condi rock!!! heh The liberals are the racists!! So you don't actually have an answer? ... typical  |
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I love black people!! I mean house nigga's like condi rock!!! heh The liberals are the racists!! So you don't actually have an answer? ... typical Answer too?? I was called a racist... whats there to answer? |
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 11:37:05 PM » |
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I asked you to tell me who's calling this cover racist, http://www.itsallpolitics.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,26/topic,2502.msg59957/#msg59957HERE, cause I really haven't heard that from anyone. If anything, it's the Muslim population that has the most to complain about. The fact the he was even "attacked" for being a supposed Muslim, as if this somehow proves he would be a bad president, as you can imagine, rubs regular Muslims the wrong way. But regardless, you implied that criticism of Obama supposedly labels you a racist by others, yet this "criticism" (read: "libel" or "defemation") by the New Yorker hasn't been reflected that way. It's been shown to be ignorant and false - not racist. I keep waiting for you to prove your point... but you have come up noticibly empty every time... |
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2008, 05:46:59 AM » |
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The New Yorker gets huge publicity.
Obama gets a wide refutation of the worst rumors by having it brought up and then refuted.
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 06:29:41 AM » |
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I love black people!! I mean house nigga's like condi rock!!! heh The liberals are the racists!! So you don't actually have an answer? ... typical Answer too?? I was called a racist... whats there to answer? No Bonzo ..you were not "called" a racist ...it was merely pointed out that you are a racist...and not a very clever one at that. |
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2008, 11:24:12 AM » |
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I love black people!! I mean house nigga's like condi rock!!! heh The liberals are the racists!! So you don't actually have an answer? ... typical Answer too?? I was called a racist... whats there to answer? No Bonzo ..you were not "called" a racist ...it was merely pointed out that you are a racist...and not a very clever one at that. I am not a racist you are a racist!! |
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