IAP Political Forum
January 08, 2009, 11:50:50 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Support IAP -- join "High Society" with less fuss. Click "paid subscriptions" from your profile.
 
   Home   Blog Forum   Help Search Chat Login Register  
Digg This!
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Ahkenaten went to Jasper National Park  (Read 686 times)
Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« on: August 05, 2008, 08:54:36 AM »

Ahkenaten grew up living and travelling throughout the Yukon and Northern British Columbia. This is a land with no roads. Where the horseflies carry off your young if you're not careful.

Yukon and Northern British Columbia (and Alaska) is the last refuge of the North American bear, (brown, black, grizzly). They are essentially extinct in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba where they were hunted to that point.

Ahkenaten has 'encountered' bears no less than 2 dozen times in his life. Usually this means he heard a rustling and turned to look just in time to see the bears ass as it's walking away --meaning it had been looking at him from a distance for a while already. Ahkenaten has had eye contact with a bear more than once. It was a holy experience for him. They are gentle gorgeous animals. We share so much on a basic level with them.

Ahkenaten understands the bear. He is a big animal that needs 25000 calories/day. The rest of it's time it conserves its energy which is why bears don't really hunt themselves. The law of survival for the bear is to get calories by the route of least resistance. It can't afford to chase down every rabbit or deer. If it tried it would starve.

Ahkenaten used to hunt. Ahkenaten grew tired of hunters. They shoot a juvenile grizzly in the ass then stuff and pose it like it was a vicious beast charging the hunter when it was shot. Yogi Bear is a more apt description of a bear's personality and motives than the fearsome poses he's seen the stuffed ones in.

Ahkenaten tires of listening to how dangerous a bear can be. In 18 years at Jasper National Park -- with a million+ visitors/year there have been only ten bear attacks resulting in 2 deaths. Ahkenaten remembers that one of those deaths was a Korean tourist who tried to pose for a photo with the bear. Ahkenaten thinks this makes the common cold more dangerous. Even so Ahkenaten is more afraid of a bear encounter in the Jasper backcountry than anywhere else because they're used to seeing/smelling humans.

Ahkenaten read all the reading material provided by Jasper National Parks on how to be safe around bears...how to react if encountering a bear...how to use bear spray, etc.

Ahkenaten saw bear warnings everywhere in the park.

Ahkenaten went hiking into the backcountry for three nights - far away from the campers. It was rainy, muddy and prime bear season. Ahkenaten did not see a shred of evidence of even one bear.
Not one overturned log.
Not one footprint in the mud.
Not one scratched tree.
Not even one pile of mummified bear turd.

The only evidence of a bear Ahkenaten saw was the one that was road kill (or poached) on the way into the park.

Cry



Ahkenaten doesn't like people very much today.
Ahk
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 08:58:48 AM by Ahkenaten » Logged
Wiglaf
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +17/-10
Posts: 263



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 04:48:50 PM »

Wiglaf doesn't like people talking about themselves in the third person. Grin

Seriously though I'm sorry for the disappointing circumstances you encountered.
Logged

. . . sometimes it seems that one has to lean into the wind to stand straight.
James Welch Winter in the Blood

Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution,no law, no court can even do much to save it.
Judge Learned Hand
micfranklin
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +69/-79
Posts: 1,278


Jak is still not pleased...


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 05:50:28 AM »

As an animal lover myself, poaching is a real bitch.
Logged



Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 08:59:52 AM »

Ahhh. I'm just venting. It's not like I wanted to run into a bear. Smiley

I had a great time anyways.


Logged
Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 10:22:10 AM »

Quote
Wiglaf doesn't like people talking about themselves in the third person.

Ahkenaten feels your pain.
Logged
bringbackwigs
Professional Post-Whore
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +158/-183
Posts: 3,118


Please refrain from taking my posts seriously


View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 11:16:57 AM »

Quote
Wiglaf doesn't like people talking about themselves in the third person.

Ahkenaten feels your pain.

Only Ricky Henderson can talk in the third person. This is a rule.
Logged

In religion and politics, people\\\\\\\\\'s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination. - Mark Twain

allpoints
Full Member
***

Karma: +24/-2
Posts: 214


I don't care if it rains or freezes...


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 01:25:51 PM »

Jasper is an awesome place Akh, but your Loonie goes further in AK these days...
 Bear Attacks Hit Record High in Alaska

I had to shoo off a 600lb brownie that was trying to get in my bear proof garbage cans about a month ago. I told him that was a good way to get shot. He lit out down the centerline of a gravel road, covering 100 yards to the woods in about 2.2 seconds...
Blackies have always been common around here (the only animal legal to hunt in the city limits of Seward), but brown bears (big coastal fish-eating grizzlies) are relatively new to Seward. They have expanded through the Resurrection River valley from the interior of the Kenai Peninsula and do quite well for themselves feeding on moose, blackies, loose dogs, and the occasional jogger in between salmon and hooligan runs.
Salmon Creek and Bear Creek residents give names to the bears they see most often. Having a bear in the backyard here is usually more an occasion for the video camera than for the big rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4A2A_3WJY    (Last year in Homer, Ak)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tolJbFKJcQ0    (This year in Anchorage, Ak)

Although it's highly illegal to kill one outside of regulated hunting and strictly defined Defense of Life and Property, the old Indian name for a nuisance bear is "Rug", and out here in the country it's highly unlikely for one's neighbors to complain to the authorities for solving a problem in the middle of the night.
Not that it happens very often, our brownies haven't mauled any children or broken into any occupied houses lately, but one got a face full of pepper spray for hanging out in someone's garage last May. The home owner was late for work and couldn't get to her car with the grizzly in the garage...

Gotta love Alaska!

 Cool

PS: Visit me out on the Karluk River during sockeye season. Guaranteed encounter with the largest brownies on the planet, if that's what you crave.  Grin

"I watched the bear wade into the river, make a sudden lunge and drag out a flapping salmon. It carried the fish straight toward me, and just 20 yards away began to eat it. I was on edge, but the bear regarded me with as much interest as a stone. Over the next two hours I watched the bear catch and eat 10 red salmon as it slowly worked its way downstream and eventually out of sight."






« Last Edit: August 19, 2008, 02:13:24 PM by allpoints » Logged

slide
Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 02:22:40 PM »

Quote
Jasper is an awesome place Akh, but your Loonie goes further in AK these days...

I denounce Jasper Park. Going to Bowron or Nahanni river next year.

Quote
Gotta love Alaska!

I do. Never been there but I'm going.

Quote
"One jogger said he discovered the sow running behind him and pulled himself forward as its jaws snapped shut an inch from his rear end."

heh. Personal trainers in Alaska.

Quote
Visit me out on the Karluk River during sockeye season. Guaranteed encounter with the largest brownies on the planet, if that's what you crave.

Well I'm not Timothy Tredwell. I just like my wild to be, you know, not tamed.

What time of year is sockeye season?



Ahk
« Last Edit: August 19, 2008, 02:48:38 PM by Ahkenaten » Logged
Jericoacoara
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +68/-11
Posts: 895


Fortaleza IAP 1.0


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 03:09:54 PM »

Is the bear population there declining?  Cry  If so, do you know why?


BTW great post Ahk. Good to see some posting in the lobby  Smiley
Logged

The greatest tragedy is for a person to die with the music still within them.
Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 06:35:26 AM »

Quote
Is the bear population there declining?

Only in the national parks.  Huh? Angry

In BC, Yukon and I think Alaska they are gaining some ground again (from being in danger of extinction). But that's not saying much since they used to be found in good numbers all over the continent.


Quote
If so, do you know why?

Same reason the wolf is practically an alien creature on the praries - because people suck. They were pretty much hunted to extinction by farmers.


Ahk
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 06:49:14 AM by Ahkenaten » Logged
Ahkenaten
Forum Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +138/-141
Posts: 1,743


Professor of Angular Mil and Applied Narcotics


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 06:38:25 AM »

ALLPOINTS: your post got taken by the spam filter. We all hate it. Cant do anything about it. The trick is to post initially without any links. Then after posting, edit your post and add the links after....cheers


Quote
Quote
Jasper is an awesome place Akh, but your Loonie goes further in AK these days...

I denounce Jasper Park. Going to Bowron or Nahanni river next year.

ALLPOINTS: You have to go a long way to find a place more spectacular than Banf/Jasper/Lake Louise/Golden.

AP: Kluane's pretty special, but probably old hat for you. Buggy at times and hard to access the good stuff, but 100% wilderness.


Quote
Quote
Visit me out on the Karluk River during sockeye season. Guaranteed encounter with the largest brownies on the planet, if that's what you crave.

Well I'm not Timothy Tredwell. I just like my wild to be, you know, not tamed.

What time of year is sockeye season?



Ahk


AP: Nevermind the significant problem with the run this year, just look at the curve of the average run timings...

http://alaskaoutdoorjournal.com/Sonar/karlukking.html
 

AP: Run timings vary by river, but there's a lot of info out there.


http://www.cf.adfg.state.ak.us/geninfo/finfish/salmon/salmcatch.php#charts

« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 06:48:48 AM by Ahkenaten » Logged
Abraxas
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +216/-218
Posts: 4,192


"You do not speak for the rest"


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 12:32:09 PM »

Quote
Quote
Jasper is an awesome place Akh, but your Loonie goes further in AK these days...

I denounce Jasper Park. Going to Bowron or Nahanni river next year.

ALLPOINTS: You have to go a long way to find a place more spectacular than Banf/Jasper/Lake Louise/Golden.

I've been to Bryce Canyon, Yellowstone, Sedona and the Grand Canyon. I loved each one in that order.

The Grand Canyon was nice - but the others were especially fantastic. Bryce was just BEAUTIFUL with it's natrual stone arches, tall leafy pines and yellow setting sun beyond the distant horizon. I watched a lighting and thunder storn approach us and just was totally taken back by it's magnificence.

I'm trying not to oversell the place - but I REALLY loved it.

Yellow stone is cool too, especially watching that Byson ram an SUV in front of us! If that's not irony, I don't know WHAT is.
Logged

Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
- Noam Chomsky

... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.5 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.105 seconds with 26 queries.