Irish Commie is right but what none of you know besides the Russia Ivan, that Russia has exact the same kind of relationships with Ukraine, Poland and Baltic from which none have an oil. Situation pretty reminds pre WWII when Commies occupied nearby countries to expand borders prior war but we all know that the real reason was overtaking Europe along with Nazis

  Why Nato spare "cargo", for accommodation of bases?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/08/mil-080813-rianovosti01.htm

So how much solidarity do you think these other nations will continue to show? How much farther will things go with the obvious breech of non-aggression?

Poor mdma, that pipeline you Zionists figured on to get the oil out of the Caucasus, now belongs to Russia. Don't you even read your own papers?

Last update - 13:15 14/08/2008         
Georgia president denies Israel halted military aid due to war
By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili denied on Wednesday night that Israel has suspended its military aid to the country. "I haven't heard anything about that, and I haven't had time to think about that issue for some days," he told Haaretz.

Saakashvili said he is aware of problems with supplying the pilotless drones that his army ordered from Israeli companies, but not of the stopping of any other shipments of military aid.

"The Israeli weapons have proved very effective," he said at a press conference at his office. When asked whether the Israeli arms played a role in the military successes he claimed the Georgian army had achieved, he joked: "Are you asking me as a representative of Elbit or of Israel Aerospace Industries?"
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To a reporter's question about Jews who have fled the fighting and come to Israel, he said: "We have two Israeli cabinet ministers, one deals with war [Defense Minister David Kezerashvili], and the other with negotiations [State Minister for Territorial Integration Temur Yakobashvili], and that is the Israeli involvement here: Both war and peace are in the hands of Israeli Jews."

Yakobashvili is actually not an Israeli citizen. Saakashvili's statements are part of his government's attempt to bring other countries into its war against Russia. During the briefing, Saakashvili noted that he is in constant contact with U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. He promised that U.S. warships would be docking in Georgian ports within a few days to make sure they remain open.

Saakashvili tried to project confidence during the interview, but could not completely hide the stress he is under. A few hours earlier, refugees from Gori held a spontaneous demonstration in front of parliament, calling for Saakashvili to resign.

"We will fight to the death until the last Russian soldier leaves Georgian territory," Saakashvili told reporters. "We will never surrender."

He characterized the announcements against him by Russia's government, blaming him for the suffering of the Georgian people, as "typical Nazi propaganda." He accused Russia of ethnic cleansing in the Georgian villages in the north of the country. "If Georgia falls, all of the energy supply routes will be blocked," he said.

Saakashvili told the press conference that he expected Russia's next victims to be the Baltic countries. He accused Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin of "trying to take revenge on the United States, but instead of attacking the Sixth Fleet he found himself an easier target."

Georgian minister slams Israeli suspension of aid
Earlier Wednesday, Yakobashvili told Haaretz that Israel has joined in the West's betrayal of Georgia. As the official in charge of bringing Abkhazia and South Ossetia back into the fold, Yakobashvili oversaw negotiations with the Russians to end the fighting there. He warned the world that the situation would escalate into war, but the West ignored him.

"They said the Georgians are exaggerating again," he charged.

A former Zionist leader who speaks fluent Hebrew, Yakobashvili credited Israeli defense companies with "enabling us to train our army and giving us the possibility to withstand the Russians," but termed the Israeli government's decision to stop arms exports to his country "a disgrace."

He said the West should have responded by "deploying NATO troops to defend Georgia's vital infrastructure," and that "Israel is betraying us, along with the European countries and the United States."

Referring to rioting by Russian militia groups in villages surrounding Gori, Yakobashvili said: "Today there was a Cossack pogrom against the local population. As a Jew that gives me a different feeling."

Yakobashvili blasted Israel's decision to suspend defense aid to Georgia: "Israel did it at the Russians' behest. It aided the terrorists, the Russians. It's a disgrace. I don't know what it received in return, I only see that Hezbollah continues to get Russian arms, and plenty of it."

"Israel should protect the interests it has here," he continued. "There are many Israeli businesspeople who invested money, and a country should protect its citizens' investments."

He ascribed Georgia's feisty military ability to Israeli training, and said that Russian experts had told him "they never believed Georgia has such an army and that they would encounter such resistance."

Yakobashvili claimed the Georgian forces had destroyed Russia's 58th army and downed 17 planes and three helicopters (data unsubstantiated by other sources). Eventually they had to retreat, he said, because "Russia deployed 30,000 soldiers and a thousand tanks. Our people are not suicidal ¨ we don't want our soldiers to remain in the field and be killed by Russian planes."

The minister claimed that the Abkhazian minority had carried out "ethnic cleansing" in that breakaway region in recent years by expelling members of other ethnic groups, and had supplied weapons to separatists in Ossetia for attacks on Georgian villages.

He was in Tskhinvali, Ossetia, last week, hours before fighting broke out there. "The separatists fired at Georgian villages. We returned fire and asked the Russians to order the Ossetians to stop. The Russian representative told me we have to agree to a total cease-fire and that President Saakashvili had issued such an order to our army, and we  did not return fire, even when they bombarded two of our villages. I told the president we should pay the price, just let there be peace. But when we found out that they were  continuing to transfer more weapons through the Roki Tunnel [between Russia and Ossetia], we had to attack. It was a matter of screwing or being screwed."

Despite the Russian army's advance toward Tbilisi on Wednesday, Yakobashvili said he believes the cease-fire reached through French mediation will hold.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1011298.html

All that sucking up to Bush and AIPAC may not do you too much good now. Will those arms deals with Russia
fall though?  Where are you going to get your oil now?  Only Egypt?  Better fire up Dimona for some powrer instead of atomic bombs. You know like the Iranians are planning to do.  Power not bombs thats a good motto
for Israel too.

What we do know about you mdma is you must inhabit a wheel chair, because you have nothing to post, but personal insults as you've proved well, you never have a leg to stand on.

Golden words, Peis, golden words. Except small lies about S-300. President Pryschenko denied sale of S-200 (S-300 are not produced in Ukroland) to Georgia.
Only anti-aircraft missile system "OSA", "Buk" surface-to-air missiles, some MI-8, MI-24  copters.
The deal was made 5 years back according to Ukros.

Ukranian S-200, actually. For what Ukraine had paid to your folk, dont' you remember, kid?
A sho, new evidences popped up?

But how much will Geogians suffer as the result of their leader's ambition and trust in what turned out to be a "paper tiger?"

Bush has "tweaked the bear" with Reagan's "star wars" mostly to satisfy the "military industrial complex" with the missile defense deployment on Putin's borders. Along with the loss of the oil pipeline on the Black Sea, that might have provided oil to Israel, the people of Georgia are suffering from Saakashvili's ambition and decision to trust what has turned out to be a "paper tiger."  Mushroom Cloud Condi, the "Russian expert" continues to do her employer's bidding, with the same lack of results she's shown since 9-11 in all her actions.

While humanitarian aid my be provided by air, the U.S. Naval "rescue" turned out be another Bush error.

One can only feel for the civilians who are always the one who suffer from the choice of their leaders, not all that much different from the Iraqis who continue to die because of the U.S. occupiers, who unless the "sovereign" Iraqi government finally makes the decision to remove the catalyst for much of the violence.

Georgians still hoping that U.S. military will arrive

Tom Lasseter | McClatchy Newspapers

last updated: August 15, 2008 06:11:25 PM

TBILISI, Georgia  Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday persuaded Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to sign a cease-fire agreement calling for Russian tanks to withdraw from much of the country.

President Bush, meanwhile, scolded Russian leaders for continuing to occupy Georgian territory and promised that citizens of this country won't be forgotten.

But in refugee centers across Tbilisi, men and women who'd fled their burning villages wanted to know when the support would move beyond words. They wanted to know when the Americans, or perhaps the Europeans, were coming to save them.

"America is the only light left for Georgia," said Shota Tsotniashvili, who left his home north of the capital and was sharing a small room in a Tbilisi kindergarten building with his mother, wife and three children. "Bush knows what to do."

Tsotniashvili had been living in a town near South Ossetia, the Russian-backed breakaway province that Georgian troops tried to retake last week. After Russia  seemingly unchallenged  responded by sending thousands of troops along with fighter jets, Tsotniashvili fled.

"When I left, the bombs were falling. My wife almost went crazy," Tsotniashvili said. "A lot of people were hiding in basements. Some of them died when the buildings above them were bombed. They just collapsed."

Human Rights Watch, an international advocacy group, said it had found evidence that the onslaught in Georgia included cluster bombs in civilian areas, a charge that the Russian government denied.

On Friday, even as Rice met with Saakashvili, Russian tanks and soldiers remained in Gori, less than an hour away.

The peace deal that Saakashvili agreed to, and Russia has agreed to sign, is vague in parts, with Russia retaining the right to defend its interests, a measure that Moscow apparently has taken to mean that it can dismantle much of Georgia's military infrastructure. Kremlin officials also have repeatedly called into question whether South Ossetia and its fellow breakaway province, Abkhazia, would remain parts of Georgia.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the cease-fire principles provided a "necessary and sufficient base for achieving a settlement.'

Bush issued yet another statement in Washington. "The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world, and we will not cast them aside," he said. The Pentagon confirmed that more than 80 tons of humanitarian aid had arrived to Georgia and that more was on the way.

But in what's certainly one of the most pro-American nations in the world  a major thoroughfare here is named for Bush, who in 2005 called Georgia a "beacon of liberty"  people were having a hard time understanding the lack of U.S. intervention.

Read the complete article along with additional ones on the link.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/48497.html