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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2008, 11:08:49 AM » |
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Perrin ; The popular lie about the photo Patton uses as his avatar is that Obama does not put his hand over his heart when the pledge is recited. It is this LIE that made this photo popular amoung right wing hacks looking to invent something to end his popularity. In fact the photo was taken at the start of the national anthem not the pledge. Obama asserts that he was taught as a child that "you put your hand over your heart for the pledge, when the anthem is played you sing"... Sounds good to me. Here is a photo of Obama reciting the pledge.  Here is a photo Patton doesn't want us to look at...McCain embracing Bush and all he represents  ...note how his eyes are closed in what appears to be a profound emotional display in an adoration of the man and what he stands for. I was aware of the reasoning, just also was aware that it has been discounted numerous times to make those "attempts" to be ineffective. |
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2008, 11:18:36 AM » |
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I was aware of the reasoning, just also was aware that it has been discounted numerous times to make those "attempts" to be ineffective. Just wanted to get it out there again Perrin. I'm willing to bet that Patton didn't know and that he believed the right wing lies about the photo.
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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2008, 11:27:51 AM » |
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Finish your question and I would be glad to answer it. Tell me, specifically, to which of Barack Obama's lies are you referring? There are so many....I don't know where to start. My advice to you is to stop responding to threads you are too intellectually lazy to participate in. It's really quite simple. If you have evidence Barack Obama is practicing campaign tactics as equally dishonest as John McCain then provide it. If you don't, admit it. And if the discussion is of no interest to you one way or the other, then don't respond. I will be more than happy to step in for him/her  . Obama munipulates his supporters to in his own words "make you scared not to vote for him". For example he blames the problems with the economy and Iraq on McCain. Last time I checked both of them were senators  . I loved the last part of this article where Obama blames McCain for voting with Bush on issues then check out the last part of the article....makes you say hmmmmmm. "However, McCain has also been known to tilt against his party. For example, he voted against a 2005 energy bill in part because it included billions of dollars in subsidies for oil and natural gas production. Obama voted for the measure, and Bush signed it into law." http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/13/america/Obama-Adwatch.php |
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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2008, 11:52:07 AM » |
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Barack blames the faltering economy and the war in Iraq on GWB. McCain aligns himself and supports all the policies and agendas of GWB. Once somewhat of a maverick in his party McShame is now a Bushbot on all fronts. I still don't see any Obama lies about McCain. Wanna try again?
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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2008, 12:06:15 PM » |
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Barack blames the faltering economy and the war in Iraq on GWB. Naturally. Who else would he blame? |
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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2008, 12:09:48 PM » |
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Barack blames the faltering economy and the war in Iraq on GWB. McCain aligns himself and supports all the policies and agendas of GWB. Once somewhat of a maverick in his party McShame is now a Bushbot on all fronts. I still don't see any Obama lies about McCain. Wanna try again?
You guys are killing me. Just curious, now that Iraq has set a timeline for troop withdrawals are you going to take credit or blame it on Bush/McCain? |
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2008, 12:16:38 PM » |
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...going to take credit or blame it on Bush/McCain? That will depend on the outcome. If it goes well, then they'll take credit. If things go bad, Bush. That is subject to change, as well... |
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2008, 01:56:30 PM » |
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Barack blames the faltering economy and the war in Iraq on GWB. Naturally. Who else would he blame? GWB led the US into the war/occupation , his borrow and spend and wealthy tax break policies have caused the economy to tank. Who would YOU blame? |
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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2008, 02:39:16 PM » |
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GWB led the US into the war/occupation , his borrow and spend and wealthy tax break policies have caused the economy to tank. I think the credit and housing bubble had quite a bit to do with it, too. As for the spending, you won't find disagreement here. We should slash like hell. |
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« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2008, 04:24:58 PM » |
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We should slash like hell. When pigs fly... |
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« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2008, 04:26:42 PM » |
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LOL, Freethinker, I think the pic on your avatar has McCain kissing the wrong location. Shouldn't it be lower down?
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« Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 04:29:07 PM by Cass »
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\\"The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die.\\" Edward Kennedy, U.S.
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who knows what life would be like now had they lived.
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« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2008, 05:15:40 PM » |
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When pigs fly... Sadly... Instead, we've got at least one politician proposing billions and billions more...probably both. |
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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2008, 05:20:12 PM » |
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We should slash like hell. When pigs fly... Yes... and they make a very unlikely bird. |
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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2008, 05:28:22 PM » |
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LOL, Freethinker, I think the pic on your avatar has McCain kissing the wrong location. Shouldn't it be lower down?
Funny you should mention Cass...I almost used this photoshopped version  but I reconsidered in the interest of accuracy.  |
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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2008, 05:42:02 PM » |
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Meanwhile, nothing from Patton. Or any other conservative. No list of Obama lies.
Interesting.
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