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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 07:04:33 PM » |
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So its OK to have an affair while married to an ailing wife as long as you divorce the wife and marry the mistress, as did J Sydney McCain? If McShame stayed married to his ailing wife after the adultery, he would be a cad as well? Does that make any sense to you Abraxas? McCain likes to illustrate his moral fibre by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam. And to demonstrate his commitment to family values, the 71-year-old former US Navy pilot pays warm tribute to his beautiful blonde wife, Cindy, with whom he has four children.
But there is another Mrs McCain who casts a ghostly shadow over the Senator’s presidential campaign. She is seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain’s three eldest children....
[W]hen McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries.
When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.
Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.
Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering....
McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later.... But it wasn't until 2000 that McCain, possibly emboldened by Clinton's survival of his scandals, became the first confessed adulterer to have the nerve to run. Now, just a few years after infidelity was considered a dealbreaker for a presidential candidate, the party that presents itself as the arbiter of virtue may field an unprecedented two-timing trifecta.
McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money. In 2000, McCain managed to deflect media questioning about his first marriage with a deft admission of responsibility for its failure. It's possible that the age of the offense and McCain's charmed relationship with the press will pull him through again, but Giuliani and Gingrich may face a more difficult challenge. Both conducted well-documented affairs in the last decade--while still in public office. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.benen.html
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 08:17:53 PM » |
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So its OK to have an affair while married to an ailing wife as long as you divorce the wife and marry the mistress, as did J Sydney McCain? If McShame stayed married to his ailing wife after the adultery, he would be a cad as well? Does that make any sense to you Abraxas? You seem to be under the misguided notion that I'll change my opinion because someone from the other side of the political spectrum did it. As far as I'm concerned they're both horrible people and I wouldn't want either of them my Attorney General.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 08:55:38 PM » |
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Alberto Gonzalez has set a really low bar.
I thought there'd never be a worse AG than Edwin Meese. It took George W Bush to find someone worse.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2008, 04:24:26 AM » |
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I thought there'd never be a worse AG than Edwin Meese. It took George W Bush to find someone worse. You weren't sleeping through the Janet Reno disaster, were you?
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 05:20:55 AM » |
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Obama-Edwards would've been a nice ticket if Edwards didn't get busted just a few days ago. How you get taken down by the National Enquirer, of all sources, is beyond me 
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 05:32:43 AM » |
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I don't know which states Edwards could help Obama carry. I think he has better options.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 06:20:49 AM » |
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How is it then that in the MSM Edwards is washed up but McSame gets a free pass?? Is it because he married his mistress? Is it because she is obscenely wealthy?? Is it because it was a while ago?? Should any of the above reasons excuse what was the identical behavior only worse? Remember Edwards is staying with his ailing wife after an indiscretion ...McShame dumped his. Oh yeah Edwards isn't running for anything, McShame still is, in case no one noticed.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 06:32:38 AM » |
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How is it then that in the MSM Edwards is washed up but McSame gets a free pass?? The fact the story has no legs in the media tells me that semi-reputable news divisions aren't going to pin their names to it because of some shaky facts. I don't personally know the story so I can't speak to it but it seems to me that there are plenty of reports who'd love to take a shot, if given the chance.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 08:03:00 AM » |
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How is it then that in the MSM Edwards is washed up but McSame gets a free pass?? The fact the story has no legs in the media tells me that semi-reputable news divisions aren't going to pin their names to it because of some shaky facts. I don't personally know the story so I can't speak to it but it seems to me that there are plenty of reports who'd love to take a shot, if given the chance. The facts are out ther Neue ...they are not "shaky" but are well documented for anyone willing to investigate. Fact is its just not the scandel D'Jour.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 08:07:48 AM » |
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The facts are out ther Neue ...they are not "shaky" but are well documented for anyone willing to investigate. That very well might be true but it's a bit cumbersome swimming through the murk. Then one is left to fact-check some of these shaddy looking web sites. Fact is its just not the scandel D'Jour. No question. No one seems to care too much about it.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2008, 11:31:52 AM » |
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How you get taken down by the National Enquirer, of all sources, is beyond me  LOL The irnoic thing is when I saw that Enquirer was the source that broke the story I thought, "well, it's gotta be false then". I guess I'll take the Enquirer a little more seriously now... P.S. mic, where have you been?
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune. - Noam Chomsky
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2008, 11:51:05 AM » |
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I guess I'll take the Enquirer a little more seriously now... I'm tempted to take the MSM a little less seriously...if that's possible...for missing it.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 07:29:02 PM » |
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The Hill Mukasey will not prosecute in DoJ hiring scandal By Joey Michalakes Posted: 08/12/08 12:17 PM [ET] Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Tuesday that the Department of Justice would not pursue criminal charges against former employees implicated in an internal investigation on politicized hiring practices.
“Where there is evidence of criminal wrongdoing, we vigorously investigate it,” Mukasey said in a speech at the American Bar Association. “And where there is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime, we vigorously prosecute. But not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime.” One more item for the "Bush's Legacy" thread. Such leadership. Such noble sentiments. Perhaps we should get that last sentence engraved on our currency?
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2008, 07:53:42 PM » |
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Is it just habit to go off topic with a "well this other guy from the other party is worse"... or is really accidental?
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 09:14:07 AM » |
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I guess it would depend on if the one doing it has a history of spamming partisan propoganda....
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