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In march of 2005 American used 320,500,000 gallons of gasoline per day.. Federal tax on gasoline is at $.18 cents per gallon , that is roughly $57,690,000.00 per day the feds collect in gasoline tax's. And this figure doesn't include diesel sales tax which is $.24.4 cents per gallon.
Because of high gas prices, in the past nine months, Americans drove 53.2 billion miles less than they did during the same period a year ago, a new report from the U.S. Department of Transportation shows.
The DOT says with Americans traveling less, the fuel tax is proving to be an inefficient means of funding the nation's transportation infrastructure. During the first quarter of 2008, motorists consumed nearly 400 million fewer gallons of gasoline, or about 1.3 percent less than during the same period in 2007. So, roughly, the government is complaining and telling us that because they lost a little more then one days worth of gas tax's, that the fuel tax is proving to be an inefficient means of funding the nation's transportation infrastructure. Over 53 million a day coming in, I think they should be able to scrape by.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 03:07:51 PM » |
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The decrease in driving is also having an effect on toll revenues and some politicians are freaking out; Senator Andrew Ciesla, R-10, noted with concern an Asbury Park Press report that toll road revenues have fallen steeply, and he again urged the governor to call a Special Session of the Legislature this summer to address the state’s transportation funding problem.
Falling toll collections have led to a nearly 5 percent drop in revenue on the Turnpike, the newspaper reported. Garden State Parkway revenue is down 4.2 percent. http://www.senatenj.com/index.php/ciesla/ciesla-falling-toll-revenue-highlights-need-for-special-session-on-transportation/669 When you think about it , if people are driving less wouldn't the roadways need less maintenance and keep up with a lower budget? |
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 03:23:48 PM » |
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This is a crude attempt to villainize people that walk to work, and I resent it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 04:22:55 PM » |
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This is a crude attempt to villainize people that walk to work, and I resent it.
Yes, why do you selfish "walkers" hate America so? You, by your own admission, are walking to "work". With a job you should be able to afford the gas and support this great country with the taxes and tolls you would pay. |
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 04:56:47 PM » |
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This is a crude attempt to villainize people that walk to work, and I resent it. Ah, but do you resent it because you walk to work, because you use public transportation or because you work from home? Or could it be you just don"t have a car and resent people that do?  Or...Maybe its because you havent paid your sidewalk maintenance tax?  I despise people who walk for free then complain about cracks in the sidewalk.. |
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illerino if youre not into the whole brevity thing
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 05:12:08 PM » |
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This is a crude attempt to villainize people that walk to work, and I resent it.
Yes, why do you selfish "walkers" hate America so? You, by your own admission, are walking to "work". With a job you should be able to afford the gas and support this great country with the taxes and tolls you would pay. I'll have you know that my preferred grocery store is 67 miles from my house, my preferred liquor store is 32 miles in the other direction. I haul 50 bricks in that back of my SUV at all times just in case it snows and I need extra traction. Either show a similar level of commitment to our fuel economy or admit your hypocrisy. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 05:22:01 PM » |
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This is a crude attempt to villainize people that walk to work, and I resent it. Ah, but do you resent it because you walk to work, because you use public transportation or because you work from home? Or could it be you just don"t have a car and resent people that do? Or...Maybe its because you havent paid your sidewalk maintenance tax? I despise people who walk for free then complain about cracks in the sidewalk.. What do you think I am, some kind of chump that uses public transpo and spends his valuable time wearing out shoes? Get serious. Firms that want my assistance had better move within a two blocks of my my apartment. |
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Ammunition spitting is him, is it, you listening
Littering written, it\\'s in slippers, get the rebel in him
Sticking it with sinners, sizzlin\\' rhythm, verbally hit him
Did he did it, or did he didn\\'t, admit it -
Rugged Man - Give it Up
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 05:52:36 PM » |
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Just imagine if everyone in America just walked or rode their bike for one week to work how screwed alot of these rich oil companies and government would be.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 07:53:55 PM » |
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I'll have you know that my preferred grocery store is 67 miles from my house, my preferred liquor store is 32 miles in the other direction. I haul 50 bricks in that back of my SUV at all times just in case it snows and I need extra traction.
Either show a similar level of commitment to our fuel economy or admit your hypocrisy.
That's really quite impressive and my hat must go off to you illy...but I feel I must ask ...you are not inflating your tires to the recommended psi are you? That kind of Loony Tunes activity could easily negate your otherwise commendable economic contributions in this area. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 09:17:22 PM » |
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I'll have you know that my preferred grocery store is 67 miles from my house, my preferred liquor store is 32 miles in the other direction. I haul 50 bricks in that back of my SUV at all times just in case it snows and I need extra traction.
Either show a similar level of commitment to our fuel economy or admit your hypocrisy. Well, my preferred Grocery store is 25 years in the past. I got you beat. Take those bricks out, instead, deflate your tires to about 25 psi and get a winch, It's the modern way. Either show a similar level of commitment to our fuel economy or admit your hypocrisy. NEVER! On days that I don't drive, I address an envelope to the D.O.T., put $.60 cents in it, and drop it at the Chevron station! Every time. |
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 09:25:55 PM » |
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AMAZING what simple conservation (ALL ON IT'S OWN) does to the price of oil and gas?
All without drilling a single acre...
AMAZING what buying a fuel efficient car will do, let alone driving it at lower RPMs or on tires that are maintained at good pressures.
All without drilling a single acre...
FANTASTIC how some people go out of there way to walk or ride a bike and what it does to gas and oil prices.
All without drilling a single acre....
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 04:57:24 AM » |
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Abraxas, when the price of a gallon comes back down, people will cease cutting back on driving and demand will return. We are going to need energy sources to maintain our current lifestyles.
Conservation can be forced on us with high prices...it won't happen naturally.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 06:21:00 AM » |
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Comes back down? Do you really imagine it is going to come back down? A dime here, a nickle there, maybe a whole quarter. More than that I think you are deluding yourself if you think it is coming back down. What was Exxon-Mobile's profit's last quarter?
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 06:24:48 AM » |
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It could very well come back down to $3, which will seem like a bargain versus $4.25...and could certainly reverse driving habits. What was Exxon-Mobile's profit's last quarter? Not exactly sure although I could probably look it up pretty easily. I hope it was a ton as my mutual funds are getting hit hard by the housing crisis. I need something to offset those loses. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 10:40:57 AM » |
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Abraxas, when the price of a gallon comes back down, people will cease cutting back on driving and demand will return. We are going to need energy sources to maintain our current lifestyles.
Conservation can be forced on us with high prices...it won't happen naturally. That's true... but the decrease in the number of SUVs on the road and the increase in the number of Hybrids and fuel efficient cars will have a lasting effect on demand and consumption. People aren't going to trade in their new 30mpg Toyota Carola for a 14mpg F-350. Also, while $3 looks like a great deal compared to what we've dealt with recently, inflation is still going up, which means $3 is STILL a lot of money... and is actually more then it used to be... Comes back down? Do you really imagine it is going to come back down? A dime here, a nickle there, maybe a whole quarter. More than that I think you are deluding yourself if you think it is coming back down. What was Exxon-Mobile's profit's last quarter?
This frightens me, actually. When a barrel of oil went up, gas kept a quick pace, rising each day. But now oil is down to almost $120 a barrel (correct me if I'm wrong) but gas is still well over $3.50. Oil's gone down close 40% while gas has gone down 25%? WTF?!?! |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
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... you can almost see the high water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
- Hunter S. Thompson
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