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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 11:37:55 AM »

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When a barrel of oil went up, gas kept a quick pace, rising each day.
But now oil is down to almost $120 a barrel (correct me if I'm wrong) but gas is still well over $3.50. Oil's gone down close 40% while gas has gone down 25%? WTF?!?!
 
 
 
 Its called "lets screw the American consumer" a wonderful little game played by the Big Oil and Bush administration Cabal. If you were to ask them directly they would be grinning from ear to ear as they give some hogwash answer about world market and economic inertia.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 12:25:52 PM »

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Its called "lets screw the American consumer" a wonderful little game played by the Big Oil and Bush administration Cabal.

How does Bush influence the price at the pump? Why does he set the price 20 cents cheaper 15 miles up the road?
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 12:36:33 PM »

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Why does he set the price 20 cents cheaper 15 miles up the road?

 Nicer neighborhood?  But seriously, I've noticed that not only are prices higher in low income neighborhoods, but the quality and selections are lower.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 12:38:42 PM »

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Nicer neighborhood?  But seriously, I've noticed that not only are prices higher in low income neighborhoods, but the quality and selections are lower.

Sounds like the conspiracy keeps growing. They always tend to...
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 01:30:26 PM »

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Sounds like the conspiracy keeps growing. They always tend to...

  Neue, So you think that the "Ghetto retailers association" is conspiring to up the prices in urban areas?
Call Guinness, you've just won the stupidest conspiracy theory award... your prize is an aluminum "dunce cap".
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 01:37:29 PM »

I noticed that gas prices are higher in high income areas because they can afford it.

Low income areas have cheaper gas because if they didn't more people would walk. You can't do that in the suburbs...
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2008, 01:40:00 PM »

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So you think that the "Ghetto retailers association" is conspiring to up the prices in urban areas?

No. Nor do I think Bush is sitting around the Oval Office with all the executives from the major oil companies setting prices at the pump, either, as was suggested.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2008, 02:03:31 PM »

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So you think that the "Ghetto retailers association" is conspiring to up the prices in urban areas?

No. Nor do I think Bush is sitting around the Oval Office with all the executives from the major oil companies setting prices at the pump, either, as was suggested.
The suggestion was that he lets them have a free reign to do whatever the fuck they like in the name of a free market regardless of the consequenses to the country.
 Sorry I didn't explain that better the first time around.
 Is it clear now?
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2008, 02:26:35 PM »

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The suggestion was that he lets them have a free reign to do whatever the fuck they like  in the name of a free market regardless of the consequenses to the country.

Well, not 100%. He doesn't allow them to go after domestic supplies. Are you suggesting Bush set the price at the pump? Tax the profits? Do what with the taxes? What about people whose retirement accounts are directly effected by reduced profits?

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 Is it clear now?

I'm glad you did. For a moment, it sounded like you thought Bush (and his administration) were conspiring somehow and profiting from it. Of course we've heard that before from the left fringe elements so you can understand my confusion.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2008, 03:56:04 PM »

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I noticed that gas prices are higher in high income areas because they can afford it.

Low income areas have cheaper gas because if they didn't more people would walk. You can't do that in the suburbs...

Granted, gas prices in, say, West Los Angeles and Beverly hills can get really bad, but, most of the high end stations in those areas also offer "full service".  For those of you to young to remember what that was, it's when you pull up to the station, remain seated in your car, an attendant comes and cleans your windows and checks your oil while he's pumping your gas.  In the middle class suburbs I find the cheapest gas and the best selection at markets.  If I go down to say, the Adams district, gas prices are higher and the markets are crap with no a/c or selection.  Even the .99 cent stores suck bad, but in the suburbs there cleaner nicer better stocked.  I know its not a conspiracy.  But it is a trend.
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2008, 04:23:47 PM »

Granted, gas prices in, say, West Los Angeles and Beverly hills can get really bad, but, most of the high end stations in those areas also offer "full service".  For those of you to young to remember what that was, it's when you pull up to the station, remain seated in your car, an attendant comes and cleans your windows and checks your oil while he's pumping your gas.

Jersey still does that... AND they have the cheapest gas in the country.

I honestly don't know how they do it...

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In the middle class suburbs I find the cheapest gas and the best selection at markets.  If I go down to say, the Adams district, gas prices are higher and the markets are crap with no a/c or selection.  Even the .99 cent stores suck bad, but in the suburbs there cleaner nicer better stocked.  I know its not a conspiracy.  But it is a trend.

I live in the middle class suburbs and it's been lingering around $3.55 for about a week (Shell has 5 cents off on thursdays, but I only fill up once every 2 weeks - I LOVE MY CAR!) while just north of us in southern PA and the like, it's about $0.15 higher.

They're the "Soccer Mom" kinda neighborhoods.
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2008, 05:06:57 PM »

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Well, not 100%. He doesn't allow them to go after domestic supplies.
Neue,did you miss a couple of news cycles or what? Its been over a month since Junior lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling his daddy put into effect all those years ago. The only thing keeping the ban in effect is enough sane members of congress to keep the law.
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Bush Lifts Executive Ban On Off-Shore Drilling
By Paula Wolfson
White House
14 July 2008
U.S. President George Bush is stepping up pressure on Congress to open up off shore oil exploration. VOA White House Correspondent Paula Wolfson reports Mr. Bush has lifted an executive order banning offshore drilling and is urging lawmakers to complete the process by dropping a legislative prohibition.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-07-14-voa72.cfm
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2008, 05:12:31 PM »

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Neue,did you miss a couple of news cycles or what? Its been over a month since Junior lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling his daddy put into effect all those years ago. The only thing keeping the ban in effect is enough sane members of congress to keep the law.

Could he give an executive order lifting the ban?
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2008, 05:18:49 PM »

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Neue,did you miss a couple of news cycles or what? Its been over a month since Junior lifted the executive ban on offshore drilling his daddy put into effect all those years ago. The only thing keeping the ban in effect is enough sane members of congress to keep the law.

Could he give an executive order lifting the ban?
If he could have he would done that already. He still isn't dictator. The ban was an unanomous joint agreement between congress and the white house.
 Let this refresh your memory as to why;
 http://www.fakr.noaa.gov/oil/default.htm
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