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« on: September 08, 2008, 11:40:40 AM » |
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Good. We don't need sects or fake religions here. I'm all for sucking them dry, then kick them out of business. Not only scientologist but any sect or wannabe messiah, guru, astrologue, imams, fortune tellers, faith heelers, tv-predicators etc A French judge has ordered two departments and seven prominent members of the Church of Scientology in France to stand trial on charges of organized fraud, a judicial source said on Monday.
The case is the latest in a series of legal battles that have pitted the French judicial system against the Scientologists, who could be forced to stop their activities in France if found guilty.
The latest suit centers on a complaint made in 1998 by a woman who said she was enrolled into the Church of Scientology by a group of people she met outside a metro station.
In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 01:42:49 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 08:31:04 PM » |
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Good. We don't need sects or fake religions here.
then you must be atheists,,, just don't make it like with Jews that you never wanted too. |
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 04:53:03 AM » |
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I love scientology. Their belief system makes good Sci-Fi reading.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2008, 07:46:05 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2008, 10:50:12 AM » |
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Shouldn't people have the right to choose whatever religion they want?
How could the government shield people from making stupid decisions?
I think Scientology is as stupid as the next one, and maybe if these Scientologists coerced people into buying their crap, then there is a case.
But, whats not to allow the same jurisprudence extend to the major religions?
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 10:08:13 PM » |
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In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation.
I can't say that I have a lot of pity for this woman. This isn't exactly a new scam, around 500 years ago the catholic church was selling indulgences. She should have seen it coming.
How exactly is a book a fraud, in the legal sense? Unless she did not actually receive her books, I don't see a case for it. My guess is that the books are bogus, but do we really want to start charging writers/booksellers with crimes for writing/selling shitty books? Sounds a bit extreme.
Besides the fact that the state should not have the right to ban religions it sees as false, so what?. What difference does it make to the rest of us if someone is foolish enough to spend their money on 'purification packs'. So she wasn't happy with her religious literature and bath salts or w/e they sold her. I see no more reason for this to tie up the legal system anymore than when people buy cheap plastic merchandise and are shocked when it breaks soon after they buy it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 11:08:53 AM » |
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In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation.
I can't say that I have a lot of pity for this woman. This isn't exactly a new scam, around 500 years ago the catholic church was selling indulgences. She should have seen it coming.
How exactly is a book a fraud, in the legal sense? Unless she did not actually receive her books, I don't see a case for it. My guess is that the books are bogus, but do we really want to start charging writers/booksellers with crimes for writing/selling shitty books? Sounds a bit extreme.
Besides the fact that the state should not have the right to ban religions it sees as false, so what?. What difference does it make to the rest of us if someone is foolish enough to spend their money on 'purification packs'. So she wasn't happy with her religious literature and bath salts or w/e they sold her. I see no more reason for this to tie up the legal system anymore than when people buy cheap plastic merchandise and are shocked when it breaks soon after they buy it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2008, 11:36:28 AM » |
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Catholic or any other churches still doing that but in more advanced forms. Point is if Scientology is found as fraud which i fully agree with then Christianity, Judaism, Islam and rest or religions are fraud.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 06:56:41 PM » |
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Shouldn't people have the right to choose whatever religion they want?
How could the government shield people from making stupid decisions?
I think Scientology is as stupid as the next one, and maybe if these Scientologists coerced people into buying their crap, then there is a case.
But, whats not to allow the same jurisprudence extend to the major religions?
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