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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2008, 10:55:05 AM »
Honestly, is any of this really news?
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2008, 02:43:33 PM »
Quote from: jbsven on August 14, 2008, 10:55:05 AM
Honestly, is any of this really news?

If you are new to this, it might be  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2008, 03:03:12 PM »
Quote from: jbsven on August 14, 2008, 10:55:05 AM
Honestly, is any of this really news?

I don't think so. Russia is a dictatorship, what were the chances of having free speech there?
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2008, 05:43:03 PM »
Quote from: Findeton on August 14, 2008, 03:03:12 PM

I don't think so. Russia is a dictatorship, what were the chances of having free speech there?

I don't know what century were you born, but you might want to learn a little bit more about that.
I'm not saying that Russia is a nice place, but you were thinking about China, maybe?
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2008, 02:57:01 AM »
Quote from: cauboi on August 14, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Findeton on August 14, 2008, 03:03:12 PM

I don't think so. Russia is a dictatorship, what were the chances of having free speech there?

I don't know what century were you born, but you might want to learn a little bit more about that.
I'm not saying that Russia is a nice place, but you were thinking about China, maybe?

I think you live in yuppie land if you actually believe that Russia is a democracy. Last elections, Putin got 99.3% of the votes in Chechnya, with 99.2% of participation of the electorate. At least those are the official numbers, but obviously the government just made up that data, just like they did on the communist regime. Or do you actually believe that 99.2% of the Chechnyan electorate participated on elections and that 99.3% of those, voted to Putin?

Come on, it was 101% predictable Putin would make a dictatorship out of Russia , if you know his career on KGB and FSB (one of the successor agencies to the KGB).

Source: Reuters
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2008, 02:18:27 PM »
I am living in a twilight zone. Your argument sounds valid enough, but then, take into consideration how Bush came to power with the Florida votes.

Which way is the right way?

Signed: the Confused one.....again Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2008, 07:52:44 PM »
An amusing thread by some who among those who live in the U.S. haven't as yet been picked by the spies over at the NSA.  laugh
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2008, 08:20:08 PM »
Quote from: cauboi on August 15, 2008, 02:18:27 PM
Your argument sounds valid enough, but then, take into consideration how Bush came to power with the Florida votes.

Yes, Bush tampered with some electronic voting machines both in 2004 and in 2000, but that's nothing in comparison with Russia's tactics when it comes to elections. AFAIK,, you never have had a 99.2% of turnout on a whole state, nor have 99.3% voted to the same party (this consideration might change if you feel dems=reps haha). Anyway, I'm spanish. I mean, I'm european not american so I feel save to cricticize your country too  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2008, 09:16:30 PM »
What's up with you, guys?
Georgian leader Saakashvili won the election by backslide, 96% and it was internationally recognized as the greatest achievement of democracy ever!
Why Russia cannot do the same?
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2008, 10:30:53 PM »
I must agree with mr.Russian. Georgia is as democratic as Russia but Georgia is a friend of ours while Russia is not. Remember the kindergarten, Green? Now eat the shit for trying to be become other cool kid in the block.
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2008, 10:41:14 PM »
"This son of bitch is our son of bitch". I guess I have heard this before. What happened to the guy, by the way?
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