ispeakyoulisten
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2008, 12:22:35 PM » |
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Right now I really can't tell if McCain made a right decision in choosing Palin mind you all I'm not against Palin. Well, honest to goodness,right now I really can't tell which i would side with, but i am leaning towards obama for some reason,why? Because the GOP base is not even warming up to mccain (of course, i could be wrong) and even though it's still early in the game, this just proves to show how we see our candidates to-date. i know i will get burned for this, but i think CcCain is a warmonger. i get the impression that he doesn't care to what happens to our troops in the middle east and the other parts of the world. Furthermore, the Presidential campaign TV ads is getting a little nasty, if you happen to see the "McCain's New TV Ad on Obama's 'Celebrity' like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and The Democratic TV Ad on McCain: Are We Better Off?" videos being clash in Well, sooner or later you knew it had to start! The media is begging for it and the people want to see some fight in their candidates. So here ya go...and I am sure this is only the beginning. So, if I'm going to ask this question, which one is more believable in http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=191 ?
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2008, 01:08:00 PM » |
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Right now I really can't tell if McCain made a right decision in choosing Palin mind you all I'm not against Palin. Well, honest to goodness,right now I really can't tell which i would side with, but i am leaning towards obama for some reason,why? Because the GOP base is not even warming up to mccain (of course, i could be wrong) and even though it's still early in the game, this just proves to show how we see our candidates to-date. i know i will get burned for this, but i think CcCain is a warmonger. i get the impression that he doesn't care to what happens to our troops in the middle east and the other parts of the world. Furthermore, the Presidential campaign TV ads is getting a little nasty, if you happen to see the "McCain's New TV Ad on Obama's 'Celebrity' like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and The Democratic TV Ad on McCain: Are We Better Off?" videos being clash in Well, sooner or later you knew it had to start! The media is begging for it and the people want to see some fight in their candidates. So here ya go...and I am sure this is only the beginning. So, if I'm going to ask this question, which one is more believable in http://clashorama.com/index.php?id=191 ? lol... man you are so misinformed no wonder you are leaning to Obama. This is good though so please just vote for Obama and tell all your friends. MCCAIN IS A WAR MONGER WHO HATES THE TROOPS!!
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2008, 01:50:27 PM » |
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lol.. she is kinda hot... heh.. She has 5 kids.. MILF heh  She actually, posed for Vogue magazine cover , last December of 2007.
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2008, 01:55:24 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2008, 02:58:56 PM » |
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Vogue is so down to Earth. Really speaks to the common people not that elitist Hollywood crowd.
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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2008, 03:47:09 PM » |
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f'ck her looks! She is the wrong person at the wrong time. God this is getting ridiculous....where is Ron Paul I am getting fed up with this BS
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2008, 04:29:22 PM » |
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MCCAIN IS A WAR MONGER WHO HATES THE TROOPS!! Reaganite got it 50% right. McCain doesn't hate the troops. On the other hand, Machievelli nailed it. Here's an insight into the keen strategic thinking of Sarah Palin, possibly a heartbeat away from being Commander in Chief of the most powerful nation on Earth. This is from two weeks ago: The GOP agenda to ramp up domestic supplies of energy is the only way that we're going to become energy independent, the only way that we are going to become a more secure nation — and I say this, of course, looking at the situation we are in right now, at war, not knowing what the plan is to ever end the war that we're engaged in, understanding that Americans are seeking solutions, and they are seeking resolution in this war effort, so energy supplies, being able to produce and supply domestically, is going to be a big part of that. ....I have a 19 year old who's getting ready to be deployed to Iraq. His Stryker brigade will leave on September 11th of this year. He's 19, he'll be gone for a year. [And so] kind of on a personal level, when I talk about, umm, the plan for the war, you know, let's make sure we have a plan here, and respecting McCain's position on that. Click on this to hear her gibber in her own words: http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/08/palin_on_iraq.php It's as though she was channeling Dan Quayle. Oh, Patton! What were you saying about how important experience is??? Fun fact: McCain is 23 years older than the state of Alaska.
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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2008, 04:41:57 PM » |
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The first one was a character assassination of Obama. That's what you do when you don't have any policies to offer the broad majority of Americans. The second one was listening to the candidate (McCain) respond to a question. Which one is more believable? I guess you're asking if: 1) do we believe that Obama is an out-of-touch elitist, more so than McCain? and, 2) do we believe that was really John McCain saying that in the second ad, and does he really believe it? My answers: 1) No 2) Well, McCain said it. So either he believes it or he was lying. Either way, doesn't say much for McCain.
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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2008, 06:40:36 PM » |
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Oh, Patton! What were you saying about how important experience is??? Experience is important and when the #2 has more executive experience than the #1, someone's camp should be nervous.
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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2008, 08:50:33 PM » |
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Ha! Neue, I totally agree with you! Yes, Palin has more "executive experience" than McCain! But let's be real. As the NYT's Pete Baker wrote today: Senator John McCain spent the summer arguing that a 40-something candidate with four years in major office and no significant foreign policy experience was not ready to be president. And then on Friday he picked as his running mate a 40-something candidate with two years in major office and no significant foreign policy experience.She's been governor of a small state for less than two years and prior to that was mayor of a town with roughly one-twenty-seventh of the constituents that Barack Obama represented when he was a state senator in Illinois. And how good has her judgement been? Kinda questionable... Palin is in the midst of a reasonably serious scandal in her home state. Her brother-in-law is a state trooper who is in the midst of an ugly custody battle with her sister. And she's accused of getting the state police to fire him. Recently she was forced to admit that one of her aides had done this, though she insists she didn't know.
...this is the kind of story, the kind of investigation, where it is highly unlikely that Palin hasn't made public false statements about her involvement in what happened. I think that's generous. As always in cases like this, the question is whether anyone can prove it. There are a couple investigations -- one under the auspices of the state legislature and another of the state Attorney General, which she either supported or 'requested'. That latter investigation already surfaced taped phone calls that forced Palin walk back her original denials and admit that her aides had pressed for the firings, just without her knowledge. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211229.phpMeanwhile, Fox "News" is so desperate that they are claiming that Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska borders Russia! Really! http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211284.php And did I mention that she doesn't believe in modern science? Where do Republicans find these people...
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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2008, 09:09:47 PM » |
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Not that the "liberal media" is going to point this out, but Sarah Palin could not get through her first speech as a VP nominee without telling a lie: Anchorage Daily News, 10/5/06: Palin Said She Supported The So-Called "Bridge To Nowhere," But Was Concerned Money "Flow" Was "Going to Slow": As for the infamous 'bridges to nowhere,' MacDonald asked if the candidates would forge ahead with the proposed Knik Arm crossing between Anchorage and Point MacKenzie and Ketchikan's Gravina Island bridge. Each has received more than $90 million in federal funding and drew nationwide attacks as being unnecessary and expensive. He also asked if they support building an access road from Juneau toward -- but not completely connecting to -- Skagway and Haines. 'I do support the infrastructure projects that are on tap here in the state of Alaska that our congressional delegations worked hard for,' Palin said. She said the projects link communities and create jobs. Still, Palin warned that the flow of federal money into the state for such projects is going to slow... MSNBC, 8/29/08 Palin: "I Told Congress 'Thanks But No Thanks' On That Bridge To Nowhere": During her speech in Dayton, Ohio, after being introduced as McCain's running mate, Palin said, "I told Congress 'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, I said, 'we'd build it ourselves.' http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. You certainly do fit the Republican mold...
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« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2008, 05:12:47 AM » |
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Ha! Neue, I totally agree with you! Yes, Palin has more "executive experience" than McCain! But let's be real. Nice redirection but you know damn well I was talking about the wafer think resume of Barak.
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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2008, 05:27:45 AM » |
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Nice redirection but you know damn well I was talking about the wafer think resume of Barak. But experience can't be important, can it? Otherwise, Palin is an absurd choice to be a heartbeat behind the oldest nominee in history. Are you saying that McCain made an absurd choice? What are you suggesting about McCain's judgment? What does this say about McCain's claim that he 'puts the country first' before politics? Meanwhile, how does Palin stand on the issues? We already know that she doesn't believe in modern science. Taxes: Palin exploded her state's coffers by imposing a windfall profits tax on the oil companies exactly like the proposal Barack Obama has made and John McCain has attacked.The War in Iraq:In an interview with Alaska Business Monthly shortly after she took office in 2007, Palin was asked about the upcoming surge. She said she hadn't thought about it. "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq," she said. (salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/08/29/palin_iraq/index.html) Hey Patton! Did you get that one? What about that experience argument now?Social issues: Abortion (should be banned for anything other than saving the life of the mother), stem cell research (opposed), physician-assisted suicide (opposed), creationism (should be discussed in schools), state health benefits for same-sex partners (opposed, and supports a constitutional amendment to bar them). Environment:Under her leadership, Alaska has sued the federal governent for considering listing the Polar Bear as a threatened species even though global warming threatens its very existence. Fiscal responsibility: Politico's Glenn Thrush on spending: Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla — that amounts to $3,000 per resident. She argues that the debt was needed to fund improvements. Sounds like she fits right in.
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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2008, 05:38:34 AM » |
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Hey Nueu, let's hear the opinion of a leading Republican strategist, Karl Rove: ============================ KARL ROVE'S BRILLIANT ANALYSIS..... Looking back at Karl Rove's campaign analysis from earlier this month, this might be the single funniest thing I've read in a long time. Republican strategist Karl Rove said on Face The Nation Sunday that he expects presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama to choose a running mate based on political calculations, not the person's readiness for the job. "I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."
Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."
Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States." Yes, the real problem with Tim Kaine is that he's only been governor of a large state for three years, and before that, he was only the mayor of a mid-size city. This, of course, made him "undistinguished," unprepared for national office, and the very idea of putting him on a national ticket was practically ridiculous. Thanks, Karl. washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014472.php =====================================
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What you got is everything-and I mean everything—run by the political arm. It’s the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis. --John DiIulio, former White House official
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« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2008, 08:06:48 AM » |
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Sir, you can post from whatever source you care to, but the cold hard fact is, she has MORE experience than Obama.
Period.
There is no need to go any further because it's not debatable. Now, if you want to the break down #2 as being 'unqualified', then how can you, with a straight face, say Obama is?
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